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This is Gun No. 1, I hope, I have pictures of three hammerless guns in the Donn file and having trouble telling which one is which.




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John,

Thanks for changing the title, hopefully we can attract the attention of other Donn owners. Very interesting subject and there is sure a lot we don’t know about the hammerless Donns. Interesting that the Daly has Kilby barrels, I remember looking at a Donn hammergun that was a snap action that had “HAL” barrels.

Years ago I had two Margaret Kirkwood (M. Kirkwood) Hammerguns made in England with her name on them and they had the same buttplate as the one in the picture.


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Some trivia. The Donn brothers were sons of William Sr. a carriage maker from Scotland who settled in Canton, IL. about 30 miles from Peoria. William Jr married Belle Thompson in 1878. By the age of 20 James was working as a gunsmith. In 1910 they both are living in Chicago. James was in walking distance of the major gun retailers in Chicago.

I found a reference on the web that I can not confirm, ie James Donn had a gun displayed at the 1893 Chicago Exposition.

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More for Bill, I'll let him tell you about both guns.




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First Gun: James Donn Pioria-1886-88."Boston Damascus" on bbls-
blued over."W K" on action flats probably for Walter Kinnser
Scotish Gunsmith employed by Donn. Gun pictured page 159 in
Illinois Gunsmith book-can send copies of Donn write-up. E-Mail
Phone or FAX # to mcphailcherokee@aol.com
Gun 2 . E Thomas Jr 12 Ga. T Kilby on underside of bbles-Thomas
obtained guns from different sources-Most seen Francotte
Thanks Michael for posting
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More pics of Dr Bill's Thomas guns here
http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/19937467

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Michael and Tim S....as one of the former owners of the J. Donn Linder gun I am convinced that this gun had a high degree of work done at the Lindner shop in Suhl. The reason for this is that the Serial number on the gun is a Lindner S/N (941) and the Lindner bbl numbers (as I recall) are some 200 more than the 941 s/n. Engraving style and features (ie ejector eyes) are all Lindner style and quality. While the bbls do not have the usual "HAL" with crossed pistols etc... this could be explained by J. Donn ordering the piece from Lindner in an incomplete state...ie a bbld action to be stocked and finished by J. Donn. Additionally I trly doubt the J. Donn produced in excess of 941 pieces with his name on them. If this was the case than Mr. Donn and his guns would be justifably famous for their quality. (As it is I only know of a few Donn pieces) Lastly it is documented that there were other makers tht were utilizing the Linder boxlock action for their products...I think Ken Georgi can shed some light on this point. Guten abend Jeff S.

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