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I have one of those BOTLWACI (bottom of the line Western Arms Corporation Ithaca) guns. I haven't opened the chokes on my 16 because it's a turkey killer with #6 lead, good with #6 an #5 TM on ducks, and seems(?, not patterned, the horror) to do fine (blows pattern?) with #6 & #7 steel for small birds (teal/snipe) at about 25 yards. I can/do make spreader loads for it, too.
That said, I wouldn't hesitate to open the chokes if it was going to be my main quail gun or "brush" gun. It's too (barrel) heavy for that, though.
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Rob, The majority of choke work is done by simply openning the choke resulting in a straight section that is longer than the original, while not touching the tapered section. IMO, the length of the cone is not as important as the angle. So, yes the tapered section becomes shorter.
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Originality is highly overrated! Especially when the gun will be useless or close to it with the current choke configuration and modern ammo. I have no problem at all opening chokes to useful configurations and have done so on several. What guilt- that you resurrected a closet queen and brought her back to life?
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Make the gun to suit your desires, assuming you plan to keep it for a reasonable length of time. To RR: Chokes are normally opened up with a reamer or by honing at the muzzle. This leaves the original taper as it was but with a longer parallel section. The taper of course, is shorter, but the same angle. I doubt that anybody has the equipment or the inclination to mess around with the original lead-in to the choked portion. Mike O. might add to this thought.
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Jim,
One of my 21s has a left barrel that was opened up, and is correctly factory overstamped, from WS2 to IC. There is no parallel section, indicating that they did not simply hone at the muzzle. I don't know if they retained the original angle (shortened the choke section), or opened the choke by reducing the taper. In any case I agree that the usual approach is to leave a parallel section.
My VH 12 was opened (by Mike Orlen) from .034 to about .014. There is a distinct parallel section. It now throws very nice LM patterns despite the parallel. So I wonder how much parallel section is needed in order to reduce choke effect?
Sam
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