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Old Joe, you need to reread your own post above mine! I NEVER wished you "bad times". You stated that the X ray operators would give you a "hard time. The I stated that you likely deserved at "hard time". NOT "Bad Times"!

I went and reread all post. Sorry I misquote. Heres what you wrote.

'A "hard time" for a high roller like you is likely deserved"

Yes I did reference hard time by X ray operators in previous post but pray tell me your rationale in saying a hard time is deserved. Also why you concluded I am high roller? Commnets just don't make sense.

I'm looking for a Pigeon Grade HD with bad wood, cheap. Anyone know where I can find one?

Basically a tongue in cheek remark about about the cost of flying to far away places and the cost of such a hunt and then being hassled about taking Bismuth shot, of which you would like to take more of, by the X-Ray monitors .

Bill, I try to keep 2 or 3 of those for rainy days. ;^p

No I never said I want to take more bismuthh. Check post, I said when flying to ducking place you can't take more than 5kg of shells. Legal limit. Bismuth, TM or what ever. That is 4 boxes. More than enough for MOd 12 HD, but problem x ray operator spot the sshells in your baggage and give you a hard time. You ask for supervisor and get no where. Better to buy STEEL shot sheels at your destination, as many as you wnat and no hassles. Verstehen sie mich?

Don-the only Pigeon Grade(?) M12 Heavy Duck I have seen was one of the "Fubared 50's" series with the "Dog Leg" slide- a real mistake my WRA- Both Madis and Riffle detail that in their books. Have you ever seen a M12 12 ga. refitted by the factory to 3" and with a verifying letter? I have. But as the M12 HD had a much heavier WT WPS barrel-and the receiver was about .0625" thicker, I wonder how they would hold up with the 3" loads? Any ideas?? I have a friend with two std. grade M21's mfg 1948-1051 era- the 1948 has 30" barrels imp. cyl. right and imp. mod. left, and is marked 3" chamber on the left barrel breech at the 9 o'clock position- the 1951 is a Duck Model 21- 32" solid rib and is choked mod. and imp. mod- with 3" chambers- both have SST and SAE--the Duck Model has a greater wall thickness as measured with a digital vernier caliper both at the breech and at the muzzle-both barrels-did Winchester use a heavier set of barrels for the M21 Duck than for the std. M21 12 bore??

Some sort of newfangled hybrid mutant measuring device?

I think it's manufactured by Mossberg...

I bet he gets em at the same store what he gets all them Model 12's at......