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Your point of cutting taxes to goose the economy, agree. As for our system a big entitlement program, maybe so. It's our choice; we voted for it and are paying for it. It makes for the strongest economy of the G8, no financial bailouts, no annual deficits but surpluses in trade, no China holding our debt and we've just elected another conservative government to boot. It will have to do until something better comes along.

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Originally Posted By: Bouvier
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At times like this I feel like the Oysters taking a walk with the Walrus and the Carpenter!


AL


Yea AL!!! Poor little oysters, getting eaten no matter what. Money in hidey holes seems better every day. Unless you are big enough to get a few million bailout dollars.

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King, I'm glad your proud of your country, I'm proud of mine too. We're just having some problems right now, but we will work them out and will be stronger because of them. Like we always do and have done.

I'm glad things are working out so well for you guys.

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Timothy S & JayCee et. others.
I apologize to those I have offended, however these kinds of posts do not belong on this kind of forum in my estimation. If that puts me on a soapbox, so be it. There are a myriad of forums to vent your political views. Personally I'm getting tired of this forum being used by some members as their own personal "CHAT LINE". If you do not agree, I will give up my soapbox and consider if this is a site I belong in.
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Originally Posted By: Mike B.

There are a myriad of forums to vent your political views. Personally I'm getting tired of this forum being used by some members as their own personal "CHAT LINE". I will .. consider if this is a site I belong in.
Mike B.


Mike B.,

You are hardly alone in that position. That Dave Weber has allowed this to go so far is equally bothersom.

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I would prefer to see only those aspects of politics that can and probably will have an influence gun collecting discussed here. However; There has NEVER bee a federal official elected before that is in the position to have such a negative effect on the firearms hobby that the discussion of him and his politics and policies is germane and relevant to out hobby.
It's been my experience that those who complain about these discussions on a firearms board are usually left wing liberals if not overt socialists then thinly discuised. If you are NOT one of these then a quick glance at a thread should tell you that it's not something you would care to read so go on to something else and ignore it.
If you ARE a closet liberal then why don't you knock off the charade and go somewhere else where your ideas are more acceptable.
Your negative posts are nothing more than an attempt to force censorship where none is needed nor IMO would the bulk of the membership here find it desirable. If you want the negative and very biased left wing view of firearms ownership go look at the "mainstraem" news media
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I don't know WTF kinda guns Mike and Niklas are polishing - but Rome may be burning.
After 85 replies and 1889 views, there seems to be some interest.
Prolly you two could learn something from this "CHAT LINE," that is more important to gun owner's and the possible new direction this country is headed in than - Help me - help me, my firing pin is broken!

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Well italiansxs, your remarks are, all by them selves, ample evidence why such discussions should be conducted elsewere. The only respectable away I see around that would be if a discussion here would be conducted without uncalled for attempts to label those you don't happen to agree with you and others as "left wing liberals", socialists (which you clearly don't understand at all), etc. And no, I don't happen to fit into either category, or any other that you might recognize.

There is plenty that should be intelligently discussed about potential consequences of Obama et al. on gun owners and users in USA and how that should be constructively delt with. Here is good link to his actual record http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Barack_Obama_Gun_Control.htm Yes, I do not find it comforting. Surprised?
Your highly biased and absurdly worded attacks are of no constructive value in such an endevour, so crutial to all of us.

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I did a small local gun show this weekend. The gun sales were incredible and the ammo guy completely ran out. I took a bunch of ammo and also sold out and $600 in ammo is a large amount for me. People are justly afraid. You can be guaranteed that Obummer will use presidential powers to do everything possible to attack guns and gun owners. Yes, he is a socialist if not a Marxist, and yes, the extreme left wing leebs are after us.

One fellow stated that we had no problems because Obummer had stated he was not anti-gun. 4-5 people immediately stated in unison, "And you BELIEVED him!?!"

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We had the same problem on the Porsche board I also post on. They solved it by starting a separate forum for political remarks and discussions. Any posted on the regular board are immediatly moved to the other forum. It has saved a lot of bad feelings from other posters.

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