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We survived 4 years of WW II with the most liberal President up to that point in charge. If the Germans hadn't invaded Russia I doubt if we would have even been involved in that aspect of the war since the resident socialists and communists were firmly against our particiation. Whether we would have ended up at war with the Japanese is a moot point and another matter entirely.
We are now embarking upon a 4 year period unprecedented in American history with a President who makes Roosevelt look like a moderate. We will have to endure a great deal during this period of that I am certain.
However this journey through the "Twi-Light Zone" will pass and reason and logic will prevail again and in retrospect we'll be looking back on this period as an aberent time similiar to the Carter Presidency. Time has not been kind to the liberal/socialists who surface here periodically. Have any of you ever wondered why not ONE of the Presidents on Mt. Rushmore is a Democrat? Furthermore the only President that has been proposed as an addition to Mt Rushmore has been Ronald Reagan.
Jim

YEA!!!! Let's bring back Herbert Hoover ...... Oh, wait ..... we already had 8 years of that ..... If Ronald Reagan were alive today what do you think he would say about the last 8 years ...... the outrageous deficit ...... the debt to China ........ our destroyed banking system ...... Do you think he would say ....... " Nice job W! " .......


Al

Timothy, the answer to your question is yes. According to the OECD, the US has the most progressive tax system in the world, Canada ranks seventh. Obama's promise was to raise the top marginal rate marginally to finance more cuts for the middle class. Canada redistributes income with an equalization system where the richer provinces transfer billions of dollars annually to the poorer provinces to maintain a national standard of education, health, social welfare services.

Ontario, Canada's industrial heartland with its auto and other manufacturing centres, has become a have-not province with the meltdown; Newfoundland, a have-not province for decades dependant on the fisheries and now booming as a have-province with offshore oil, is ecstatic that it may contribute its millions to needier parts of the country. It's the Canadian way. Legislated. "Have" provinces spread it around.

It's the American way, too. No country on earth has been more generous to other countries of need regardless of race, religion or colour, its defeated included. It was in its interests to do so, as is ours, nationally and internationally. Redistribution is rooted in western civilization, in its Christian ethic, and, not wanting to make too fine a point of it, the top 1 per cent of US income earners, by itself, pays 40 per cent of all income tax revenue. That should be appealing to average Americans, too.

King cutting taxes to the middle class is lip service to get you elected, cutting taxes to small business (and I'm not talking about some bs number of $250K) will get the econemy going.

Moving money around Canada is really like one big entitlement program. No wonder no one cares if someone cries an off color political comment (ie: Jeff Cooper), for someone else will come in with some money and bail you out. The fog on the window is clearing.

Tim

Hoover again. A very good executive in European war relief and the great Mississippi flood of '27. Something tied his hands or his mind in the crash; perhaps he would have done better with the human displacement of the Dust Bowl yrs but we'll never know. FDR tapdanced his way thru the alphabet creating the work camps and agencies which at least suggested a government with eyes open and the very Keynsian WWII saved our bacon by throwing a huge chunk of it down a very big drain on foreign soil. As for the Great Communicator, I have no idea what he would have been told to say about Shrub's Progress.


jack

SO MUCH damage to the "meaning" of political labels and postures. Bush and co. committed the largest spread-the-wealth socialistic act in history of the world, with the 700 BILLION dollar (at minimum) bailout to USA's financial upper crust. That is also perhaps the nastiest thing an outgoing president could do to the next one. Republicans earned themselves title of the biggest borrow and spend the world has ever seen -- an even greater achievement than any tax and spend program any Democrat ever implemented. WHAT IS A POOR INDEPENDENT VOTER TO THINK?!?!?

Republicans performing the biggest socalist giveaway in history -- Democrates now faced with reversing the biggest federal deficit and abdiction of market economics in history. Pardon me if I find most of discussion in this thread akin to reading "Alice in Wonderland".

And to think that a very effective response to a similar but smaller financal crisis was carried out by one of the world's true socialistic countries -- Sweden -- and could serve as primer to USA's attempts to dig themselves out of a major, self-inflicted, deep hole.

Niklas

NP:

At times like this I feel like the Oysters taking a walk with the Walrus and the Carpenter!


AL

To some of the members of this board
I believe Dave Weber had a slightly different concept for this forum. Doubles, not a political soapbox!
"Feel free to use this system to discuss your doubles, drillings, combination guns, other fine firearms, and related material. The rules are really simple: Stay on the subject matter, keep it clean, and contribute answers when you can!"
His words not mine.
Where is Dave Weber, the moderator?

Mike B.

Thanks for the imput Mike. Or maybe you should think twice about jumping on a 8 page thread if you don't like what is on it. Just food for thought. An election only comes once every four years and if you can't bust away from the doubles, drillings, combo guns and other fine firearms and related material, when can ya???

Tim

Mike, aren't you also standing on the soapbox?

JC