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Foxy is correct about at least one thing: Charley Cawley and MBNA twisted some arms (and tails) in DE. They spread largesse like manure for a while. How deeply Biden was involved in the putsch I don't know; he sold a home under favor-able circumstances; probably the favor was reciprocated. No laws broken I know of but I'm sure the questionable moral probity of someone who actually admits to living on this imperfect planet is an offense to a lot of lilly-white Republicans.

Thanks to Mike O. and KYJON for putting a cap on the crap.

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I think Missouri has gone to McCain by now, so does that mean he's my prez?
No mandate, for sure, but the dems are holding all the cards and the far left will want their share of the pot!





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You guys will be fine, he'll be gone in 5 years, all politicians are the same, as Voltaire said, "They are not born, they are excreted". I guess as well, that if push came to shove and he started some kind of legislation to restrict firearms all you chaps would need to rely on is Texas, they have the right, if memory serves, to cede from the Union...if they so much as threatened that you wouldn't see a president pedal backwards so fast in your life...but the Texans would have to mean it. best, Mike

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Originally Posted By: fnb25
it's pretty obvious from his behavior during the campaign that this administration will govern thru intimidation and common thuggery. i think we just elected ahmadinejad chavez to the presidency.


More like Richard Daley and Chicago style politics.

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Originally Posted By: Pete
Our only hope are those 44 Republican Senators still hanging on.


There's possibly a bit more hope. When the Republicans lost control of Congress in 2006, most of the Democrats who replaced them professed to be pro-gun, pro-2nd Amendment. Now with the Democrats running things, no doubt the West coast and New England liberal elitists will be running the show. The question is how many of these pro-2nd Amendment Democrats who replaced the Republicans will stick to their guns and professed beliefs during the election, or will they buckle to the party leadership and cave in to passing gun control?

The first two attempts at gun control are likely going to be to re-instate the so-called "assault weapons" ban that was a bait and switch lie and to close the so-called "gun show loophole" which is also a sham.

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Quote:
"world order" socialist programs....where do you get this shit?....Obama stated that he would let the Bush tax cuts expire for people earning over $200,000 a year....that's a far cry from being a socialist program....he made the mistake of referring to this tax cut expiration as a "spreading of wealth" and McCain jumped all over it, calling it socialism....this is no more "socialism" than it was before the Bush tax cuts were implemented.....in view of the record profits posted by Exxon and the spreading distance between the middle class and the wealthy, allowing the tax cuts to expire would seem a good idea....the fact that John McCain repeatedly called this idea "socialist" and proclaimed it LOUDLY doesn't make it socialist....but it would seem that saying it often and loudly does succeed in convincing those who would not bother to look at what was actually said.....


Obama stated that he would give tax "rebates" to people who don't pay income taxes. This is wealth redistribution plain and simple. A few will pay a lot more, some will pay a bit less, many will pay nothing and get a check on the rest of us.

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I did review them all the way back to the beginning. I bet no one ever thought they would go to 91% MTR but they did. It happened before; what says they cant do it again. The more he wants to give to those who dont ahve a fair share the more he will take from those who "have too big a piece".

I dont trust him. A leopard cannot change its spots.

Most liberals never met a tax they didnt like.

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doubletrouble, in order for BO to attain any of his "world order" socialist programs he must first disarm the American public and render ineffective the Second Amendment which guarantees our Constitution and Bill of Rights.


"world order" socialist programs....where do you get this shit?....Obama stated that he would let the Bush tax cuts expire for people earning over $200,000 a year....that's a far cry from being a socialist program....he made the mistake of referring to this tax cut expiration as a "spreading of wealth" and McCain jumped all over it, calling it socialism....this is no more "socialism" than it was before the Bush tax cuts were implemented.....in view of the record profits posted by Exxon and the spreading distance between the middle class and the wealthy, allowing the tax cuts to expire would seem a good idea....the fact that John McCain repeatedly called this idea "socialist" and proclaimed it LOUDLY doesn't make it socialist....but it would seem that saying it often and loudly does succeed in convincing those who would not bother to look at what was actually said.....

Why don't you come over here ( http://notssmbbs.com/viewforum.php?f=7 ) to properly discuss your idiotic ideas.
It would be a shame to dirty up this fine board with the skid mark that you would become, when properly debated.


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Originally Posted By: ViniferaVizslas
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"world order" socialist programs....where do you get this shit?....Obama stated that he would let the Bush tax cuts expire for people earning over $200,000 a year....that's a far cry from being a socialist program....he made the mistake of referring to this tax cut expiration as a "spreading of wealth" and McCain jumped all over it, calling it socialism....this is no more "socialism" than it was before the Bush tax cuts were implemented.....in view of the record profits posted by Exxon and the spreading distance between the middle class and the wealthy, allowing the tax cuts to expire would seem a good idea....the fact that John McCain repeatedly called this idea "socialist" and proclaimed it LOUDLY doesn't make it socialist....but it would seem that saying it often and loudly does succeed in convincing those who would not bother to look at what was actually said.....


Obama stated that he would give tax "rebates" to people who don't pay income taxes. This is wealth redistribution plain and simple. A few will pay a lot more, some will pay a bit less, many will pay nothing and get a check on the rest of us.


HUMM!! I distinctly recall getting a tax rebate recently from the current Bush administration, even though I no longer pay any taxes for several years. True, I got the minimum amount. Also true that before I retired I paid lots and lots of taxes for lots and lots of years. Seems this "spread the wealth" is quite bi-partisan.

I am still awaiting my "bailout" check from all those hundreds of billions the big financial firms got.

Socialism in America? It has been a homegrown American custom since shortly after the great Depression, loved and expanded by both Republicans and Democrats.

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Wonder what a cheap pander buys? Not much this year as the prez of all the people plus Saudi Arabia is a lame duck and his chosen successor a dead one. Fuel prices should leap up now; probably blame it on increased demand for fuel oil as the weather turns.

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