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#103488 - 07/20/08 10:33 AM Re: Otto Geyger shotgun. Who made it? [Re: Peter Weber]
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Peter:

I don't see any gas ports on the standing breech. Does it have disk set strikers? Could you also give us a measurement of the width of the watertable about where the eagle or the number 7x5 is? Also, does it have the menancing muzzle/crosshatching?

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#103497 - 07/20/08 11:16 AM Re: Otto Geyger shotgun. Who made it? [Re: Peter Weber]
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It proly came from the same outfit that used to offer much beloved 'Clamshell' action to pre-WWII small shop gun makers.

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#103501 - 07/20/08 11:32 AM Re: Otto Geyger shotgun. Who made it? [Re: Jagermeister]
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Come to think of it, it also looks similar to longarms by the gunmaker and metalworker Oskar Will, with a square crossbolt, of Zella St. Blasii or later Zella-Mehlis. I'm curious if Lindner sourced any components from Oskar Will?

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Edited by ellenbr (07/20/08 11:32 AM)

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#103507 - 07/20/08 12:17 PM Re: Otto Geyger shotgun. Who made it? [Re: ellenbr]
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Nice gun. If it's for sale, please drop me a line at:

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#103516 - 07/20/08 12:51 PM Re: Otto Geyger shotgun. Who made it? [Re: obsessed-with-doubles]
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Peter:

Do you have a pic of the S in a sidewise or inverted chevron like the Suhl mark and a pic of the buttplate. In Mr. Jim Cate's longarm book on page 244 is a Sauer Daly "Diamond Quality" 12 bore double without side clips with confounding serial number 681. Mr. Cate notes it as a Model/Grade 60 and a pre-WWI, auto-ejector, rectangular Greener crossbolt, roundtop with similar cocking indicators(possibly DRGM 130243). It also has very similar frame screw configuration to the O. Geyger. It has chequered church window panels and P.O.W. grip w/ gold inlay fowl on the triggerbow and gold inlay setter on the underside of the receiver.

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Raimey
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Edited by ellenbr (07/20/08 12:58 PM)

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#103517 - 07/20/08 01:10 PM Re: Otto Geyger shotgun. Who made it? [Re: ellenbr]
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No buttplate pics. gun has a Silvers Pad.
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#104031 - 07/23/08 07:33 AM Re: Otto Geyger shotgun. Who made it? [Re: Peter Weber]
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Just hoping to bring yhis back to the forefront ...
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#196230 - 07/18/10 03:42 PM Re: Otto Geyger shotgun. Who made it? [Re: Peter Weber]
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O. Geyger #1454 DR in 8X57 with the odd serial number sequence on the watertable. This is the highest number I've found.




O. Geyger with the "Sl" tube forge stamp just ahead of the flats. I still believe Berhnard Merkel played some part in the manufacture of these unique style frames as peddled by J.J. Reeb and other firearms merchants.

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#196828 - 07/23/10 09:49 AM Re: Otto Geyger shotgun. Who made it? [Re: ellenbr]
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Here's the marks between the flats and the forend lug for Geyger #1454. Looks like the Louis Kelber mark of a "K" in a jagged circle, a script "M" near the forend lug and a script "E.W.". I wonder what the line across the "Krupp Stahl"(??) on the underside of the left tube might be as well as why it was finished that way?

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#196999 - 07/24/10 06:09 PM Re: Otto Geyger shotgun. Who made it? [Re: ellenbr]
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Interesting that the Mauser has Louis Kelber's marks as well as "E.W." and then "R.S."
Robert Schlegelmilch seems to have been a principal in Suhler Waffenfabrik Schlegelmilch & Metzner. And I guess Metzner to be one of Albin, Georg or Max or the possibility exits that he was Albin Georg Max Metzner and there were a couple generations. At any rate Suhler Waffenfabrik Schlegelmilch & Metzner was dissolved in 1901 and Suhler Waffenfabrik Robert Schlegelmilch emerged and existed till 1923.

Note that the O. Geyger has only a single "K" in a jagged circle while the Mauser tube has 2 stamps of the "K" in a jagged circle. I'd guess that the additional marks note additional effort and that a script set of initals just might mean a specific effort.

from below:
http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbt...true#Post112676


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Daly with "CFW" on tube. Friedrich Werner was listed as an owner of a Waffenschmiede in the 1920s.

I think the craftsman "E.W" is in the same family line as "C.F.W." with both being Werners. There were a couple of Christian Werners in the mid to late 1800s with one being a master stocker and the other being a polisher.
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