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I rarely agree politically with friend Treblig, but I'm with him and Merle.

I think this downturn has more to do with India and China's success than our failure. The decades of buying our cheap cheap (cheap offshore labor, cheap goods at Walmart and everywhere) funded their success. As those countries bootstrap themselves; they compete for resources and upscale their manufacturing to compete in high tech...Gah! and services too (bastages!).

As India and China increase their costs for grunt work, we globally go to Africa for the next couple decade's grunt work. Call Centers are in Ghana and Keyna now. Could this global need for grunt work finally lift Africa into the developed world - and create more competition.

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Maybe in 30 years the US returns to agriculture and really becomes the world's breadbasket.
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Before this turns into the usual catalog of doom past and present, have several question. How many of you would expect the "bottom end" (4-7C) to realize roughly a 40+% increase in value over the past 4/5 yrs? If you suspect this to be the case, would such an increase be due to the racetrack of inflation or to the mechanism of internet selling or both? How do sale by local advertising or shop consignment cf.? Are there categories of field-grade guns of absolutely no collector interest which, given just the right amount of aging and less than the right amount of "mileage", do very well in the utilitarian market if you can "extract" them from the "local ore"? Right now I'm thinking of imports such as the Beretta S or BL-guns and the 70s and 80s Uggies. Are there others in your experience? What are they? No need to answer; trying to make the point that by volume of interest and resale, these are the halcyon days of this hobby.

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Just came back from EU and looked at their gas prices. I don't see why most Americans are bitching about high cost of fuel. I simply don't get it.

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Another good reason I'm not driving the family to Europe for summer vacation.


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I have never seen the prices of guns go down. They have gone up for the last 45 years as far as I can see. If you lost money on guns then you are buying the wrong kind of guns. Or, they aren't original enough that people will buy them. Or, they are just a cheap piece of junk. I have never lost money on a Model 12 or 21, Python, (or Colt of any kind), Superposed, S&W or Ruger or any gun I invested in. And I don't ever expect to lose money on them. Guns have never done anything but increase in value. So, if you lost money on a gun over the years, you really did something wrong. Or you are one who laughed at the other ones when they invested in those "butt ugly guns". So, now who's having the last laugh?

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PJ, most do not travel out of the states. I paid roughly $13/gallon last year in Norway on many fill ups.

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Jager, you don't get why Americans are bitching about fuel prices, really? Our fuel prices have more than doubled in a short time span where as in Europe, etc... these prices have been high for some time. Are we just suppose to to adapt now because that is how it is somewhere else??? Plus why is it so high somewhere else. YOU should be bitching.

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Treblig you Sir and in good company here quoting Ol' Merle- met him backstage about 3-4 years ago- he had a concert venue and a friend got us backstage passes- my pal is a huge fan of "The Okie from Muskogee" and loves his song "Big City"- so do the Coehn Bros.- in their movie "Fargo" when the "Howdy Doody" corrupt car salesman from Twin Cities walks into the country bar in Fargo- Merle's self same song is playing in the background- good choice--


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