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#86614 03/06/08 07:03 PM
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I am looking for details on low pressure loads for an old English 2 1/2",12 bore. If you have any recipes please provide the details, hull, primer, powder, wad, pressure,velocity and any other pertinent detail. I am set up for fold crimps on a mec 600 but have not ruled out going to a roll crimp.
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When I cut my Federal Papers down, I used 24 gr 7625 x 1 oz and
20 gr. Pb with 1 oz. Worked great and LOW pressure.

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Thanks, I should have mentioned that I favor a 7/8 ounce load. Shooting mostly quail over dogs.

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Hagan if you go to this site you will find more than enought low pressure loads.
They are listed for 2 3/4" hulls. I have taken the data given for 20 ga. 2 3/4" Remington hulls and have cut them down to 2 1/2" and reloaded using the same componants but roll crimped using a .030 overshot card. From what I have read but cannot substanciate is that roll crimping compared to crimped is less psi. The finished shell in length is the same as a crimped shell but almost a 1/4" smaller when fired. If you don't mind the extra time in roll crimping, you will have a nice low pressure shell.
http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/R...=3&gauge=12

I don't know if you know this but Remington STS, Premier, Nitro, Gun Club, Game Loads are all the same internally, the only difference externally is that the STS, Premier, Nitro has a brass head, the others have steel. These hulls are compression formed like the good old Win. AA's not like the two piece hull of the new AAHS

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Hagen, if you use low pressure loads (known low pressure, not guessing), you can also use 2 3/4" hulls. Do you want to use 2 1/2" hulls for some reason? They are "bothersome" if you shoot much. Use the 2 3/4" loads that reloading manuals list as sub 7500 psi and you will be fine if the gun is up to shooting at all. Good choice on the 7/8 oz load as it does a lot to reduce recoil.

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I have used 7625 and PB, but for over a year I have been using Solo 1000 at 17.5 gr, 7/8's oz and the 1100 pink wad. If you want it to be 2 1/2", cut the hull to that overall length, and prior to the first crimp stage put ina 16 ga overshot card. You will get a folded crimp, with an open center. You can read about the process and pressure velocity testing in Shooting Sportsman Vol XV Iss V


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I would agree that the shooting of 2 3/4 of known(Published, I guess?)Low Pressure in your 2 1/2"er would be fine , as Mr Bell mentions.
There are 1oz recipes for 4-5000psi.
For your 7/8ths I'd think you could find some grand, very low PSI data..good luck.
Go to the Powder companys web sites & browse their 7/8th loads,,,they all have data...IMR/hodgdon etc
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I shoot 15.8grs of Nitro 100 , CB-4100 wad and 7/8oz of shot at around 6800psi in a Remington hull. Paul

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I use Paul's load and components in Remington 2 3/4 hull; maybe a grain lighter for 7/8 oz. However, the 2007 AA manual has omitted the "cowboy" data so I'm not quite sure what's going on with N-100.

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My favorite load is Fed GM 2-3/4 paper hull, W209 primer, windjammer wad (CB4118), 18 grains of Clays. This load is published on the Hodgdon website at 1180 fps and 5800 psi.

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