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Does anyone have a ball park on how much you might be handicapped for shooting sub gauges? If there isn't a standard, what do you thin they should be?
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I used to shoot practice trap with the great Jimmy Walker. He was a 27-yard shooter and an All-American. I was pretty much just beginning to learn how to shoot trap. I was loading 1 oz loads because somebody told me you could save money doing that. The first time I shot with him I told him I was shooting 1 oz loads. He said - if you shoot one ounce loads you're beat before you even start. Well, Dang. I shoot 7/8 oz. But I'm not looking to beat anyone except myself. 
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Well, I deleted the post from what I was going to say. But what I should have said was, if I wanted a 5 target handicap for shooting a sub gauge like a .410 at sporting clays or trap, it probably wouldn't do any good anyway. And I'd probably get laughed at at my club if I wanted a 20 handicap. Skeet, it would probably be okay to shoot a sub gauge, but trap or sporting clays, with a 20 gauge or a .410, if you are shooting with other guys, there's going to be a little competition. And even with a handicap, you'll be discouraged pretty quickly. Sub gauges are okay for live hunting, but a little difficult at sporting Clays or trap. Even with a handicap.
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I used to shoot practice trap with the great Jimmy Walker. He was a 27-yard shooter and an All-American. I was pretty much just beginning to learn how to shoot trap. I was loading 1 oz loads because somebody told me you could save money doing that. The first time I shot with him I told him I was shooting 1 oz loads. He said - if you shoot one ounce loads you're beat before you even start. Well, Dang. I shoot 7/8 oz. But I'm not looking to beat anyone except myself. If you’re shooting by yourself, you won't need a handicap, will you? 😊
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Nope. Not at all.
But just out of curiosity, is 7/8 oz out of a 20 gauge any handicap in comparison to 7/8 oz out of a 12? It's really the amount of lead, not the diameter of the bore, correct?
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Yep. But I would never shoot 7/8 oz. at handicap trap. 1 1/8 oz. of 7.5 is what I would use. Now if I were trying out a load of 7/8 oz. to see how it worked for a hunting load- okay for testing on clay targets. Or something of that reason. But if I were going to go out to shoot against other people, or even for handicap practice trap, shooting 7/8 oz. loads of anything would be throwing away 25 rounds of 7/8 of shot and wads. Most people would never do that. At least not what I have ever seen. Most people don't load 7/8 oz. loads of any gauge except for hunting. Or, am I missing something?
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Yep. But I would never shoot 7/8 oz. at handicap trap. 1 1/8 oz. of 7.5 is what I would use. Now if I were trying out a load of 7/8 oz. to see how it worked for a hunting load- okay for testing on clay targets. Or something of that reason. But if I were going to go out to shoot against other people, or even for handicap practice trap, shooting 7/8 oz. loads of anything would be throwing away 25 rounds of 7/8 of shot and wads. Most people would never do that. At least not what I have ever seen. Most people don't load 7/8 oz. loads of any gauge except for hunting. Or, am I missing something? All you are missing is the cost and availability of lead. Heck, a bunch of guys are loading 3/4. .
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International bunker shooters are required to use 24.5 gram loads, which approximates 7/8 oz.
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I guess I am just the opposite of the guys who hunt and shoot on here. If I go out to shoot trap or sporting clays and I have money riding on the line, I'm not going to be using 7/8 oz. or 1 oz. of lead when everyone else is shooting 1 1/8 oz. I practice exactly the way I shoot..... And if I go out shooting sporting clays with my buddies, we get a little competitive. Even for the fun of it. They're going to be shooting 12 gauges. I'm not going to show up with a 20 gauge or a .410. I know guys on here like to go out and hunt with as little amount of shot as possible. That's great. But a 20 gauge is about as low as I'll go. (Which I have used a Model 37 Ithaca most of my life) I don't ever remember missing too much that I ever shot at. But if I want to go hunting, I want AS MUCH shot as I can get. A 16 gauge? I just bought a box of pheasant loads to use that were 1 1/8 oz.. I might use 1 oz. minimum. I don't own a 28 gauge or .410. I really admire everyone on here and the way they hunt and the game they take with their SXSs. I guess I just want every advantage I can get when I shoot. My next gun? Probably be another Model 21. Maybe a 20 gauge if possible.
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