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Your Stettler and son gun is beautiful nice engraving.

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This is the SS article on the new WR O/U. It’s now on the Explora site.


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I saw the photos and wondered who ordered it…shoot it in good health! Great decision to not proof for superior steel in harm the dynamics of the gun.


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Originally Posted by eeb
Can Hevi-Shot be used? ?

No. Currently the alloy is steel and tungsten. Tungsten is denser and harder than steel. Steel has three times less rigidity than tungsten. Gil

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Is it me!! Or is Westly Richards think rather a lot of themselves. Have I got this right they want customers to pay a four figure plus sum for a gun that will not handle steel, who the hell do they think they are the one and only Gods gift to the shooting man! Other high finish makers can produce barrels that are proofed for steel. If a gun maker wanted to charge me a four figure plus for a gun I would want it to be able to cope with steel shot to Camel dropping's and every stop in between. And if that is going to be their sales policy they can stick their gun up in a place where the sun dont shine, I am sure that I will be alone in thinking this so lets see how long this idiotic sales tactic lasts.
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Damascus. I agree.

I don't understand why a gun that's proofed for high-performance steel shot can't have lively, dynamic bbls.

Can someone explain?

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Originally Posted by obsessed-with-doubles
Damascus. I agree.

I don't understand why a gun that's proofed for high-performance steel shot can't have lively, dynamic bbls.

Can someone explain?

OWD

As the engineers say, “There is no free lunch”.

Steel shot, particularly in the larger sizes, brings its own unique complications to any given loading. It is not lead, and under the forces of higher velocity loadings, is more apt to “bridge”, or, act as a solid than lead shot will. The forces involved dictate heavier barrels and choke tubes to resist damage from these loads. There needs to be a margin of extra resistance to the forces high performance steel would bring, which is simply a bridge too far for dynamic handling characteristics. More barrel steel, results in less lively feel.

Lead, and bismuth loadings, at lower velocity, do not stress the barrels to the extent that high performance steel loads do.

To ask conventional, dynamic handling barrels to do the work that would be required of barrels that would be resistant to the forces of high performance steel loads would be asking for a free lunch.

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Ah. Ok. Thank you.

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Originally Posted by damascus
Is it me!! Or is Westly Richards think rather a lot of themselves. Have I got this right they want customers to pay a four figure plus sum for a gun that will not handle steel, who the hell do they think they are the one and only Gods gift to the shooting man! Other high finish makers can produce barrels that are proofed for steel. If a gun maker wanted to charge me a four figure plus for a gun I would want it to be able to cope with steel shot to Camel dropping's and every stop in between. And if that is going to be their sales policy they can stick their gun up in a place where the sun dont shine, I am sure that I will be alone in thinking this so lets see how long this idiotic sales tactic lasts.
Ernie. The sometimes cantankerous old git who knows when someone is trying hard extracting the piss.

That’s my point and why I posed the original question. I’d like to see if Rocketman could quantify the difference between barrels proofed for steel and barrels not proofed for steel, like these WR barrels. It seems for six figures they could work it out.

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