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It was an 1862 patent. I have one but the action must have been bought in by Frederick Gates of Derby and finished by him. The top rib is marked Daw's Patent. I think mine is 1863 vintage. Also Damascus barrelled. Has yours had new steel barrels fitted at some time? Lagopus.....
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I had that notion as well… Best, Ted
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Steven Dodd Hughes did a 2 feature article on it for “Shooting Sportsman” several years ago. It is a fabulous article and Steven did a lot of research on the gun and found when it was made and where it was shipped.
Honestly, I can’t remember if he found when it was sleeved, but he found lots of other information on it. There is a spare extractor and 2 spare firing pins under the heel plate, serial numbered to the gun. George Daw was an exceptional gun maker and this is an indication of that work.
I have another Daw underlever that is not nearly as good of condition. Daw guns are very rare and extremely well made guns…
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Looks a lovely gun by a top maker,at that level you don`t get `better` ,just `different` !!!
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Can a gun that old, with what appears to be fluid steel barrels, not be sleeved? Not judging, just asking...
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Shrapnel,
I have a Shooting Sportsman assortment of magazines going back 15, or so, years. When I get the time this, week, I will look to see if I have the article you mentioned.
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Shrapnel, there is no doubt that the gun is well made, and old. A fabulous survivor. But, do you not want to know if the gun has been sleeved, or if it has been re-barreled? I cannot imagine owning a gun that nice and not wanting to know. Hell, I want to know and I've never even seen it (in person).
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Whitworth didn't patent pressed fluid steel until 1865. It was expensive and the gun trade stayed away from it... yet the patent was extended for 5 years in 1879 and the Whitworth "wheatsheaf" mark became a symbol of quality in the early 1880's. Purdey made his first gun with the steel in 1879 - delivered in 1880. There is no way that barrel is original to the gun. The gun is still beautiful.
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Shrapnel, there is no doubt that the gun is well made, and old. A fabulous survivor. But, do you not want to know if the gun has been sleeved, or if it has been re-barreled? I cannot imagine owning a gun that nice and not wanting to know. Hell, I want to know and I've never even seen it (in person). It doesn't just look sleeved... it certainly is sleeved. If you look closely, you can see the joint about an inch in front of the engraved forend iron. And if you look even closer, you can see the Damascus pattern in the original breech section. Of course, the Damascus has been blued over and not etched, so it requires a very close examination. Strangely, I can see the sleeving joint and the Damascus pattern better on my cell phone screen than on my computer monitor. Appearance-wise, it is one of the nicer sleeving jobs I have seen where fluid steel tubes are joined to a Damascus breech section. The joint is very closely fitted from what we can see of it. It would be interesting to know who did the work, and how it was done. There is absolutely no gap or solder joint visible, and it does not look like a TIG welded joint either. The gun is a beauty.
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