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Does anyone have any experience with a Williams Twilight aperture, and would you tell me if it does indeed help in lower light conditions? If so, would it work well enough for me to go to a .050 hole from the .093? I assume the brass reflects light into the eye improving twilight vision? Thanks very much.
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Generally I find with peep sights in low light the larger the aperture the better and you don’t want any reflections off the rear ring.
A bright front sight contrasting with the game is helpful, as long as it does not shine so much that you can’t see past it and it obliterates the target.
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Parabola, This is the aperture I am considering. Called a Williams Twilight.
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I suppose the idea is to help your eye find the rear aperture but as you are meant to be looking through the rear aperture and trying to pick up the front bead and the target I am not convinced that the bright ring would assist.
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I suppose the idea is to help your eye find the rear aperture but as you are meant to be looking through the rear aperture and trying to pick up the front bead and the target I am not convinced that the bright ring would assist. Agreed. It would do just the opposite. If you are familiar with a Hadley eyecup - made by several manufacturer's - they are adjustable for light levels. Whether there is one that would fit your sight, I don't know, but they are common on the firing line at a BPCR/BPTR event.
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Parabola and BrentD, I began thinking about this when I discovered what others know, that I could shrink my groups from about 6 inches to one ragged hole by using a smaller aperture. I know, from previous experience that the deer woods grow dim enough that with a half hour of shooting time, I can't see my front sight any longer. I made an aperture sight of brass and discovered almost immediately that I had to blacken it because of light interference. I then came across the Twilight. Of course, a scope would be the answer to all this, but well, you might guess what I'm saying. The Hadley is too large but I may experiment with the idea of the shade cup. Thank you both. Kurt
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Liverwort, Thanks for starting this discussion, I’ve enjoyed it and learned from it. I so love carrying and shooting a rifle without a scope. However, when I have to get practical in dim light, the scope goes on. I’ve shot Williams aperture sights with good success. Always wanted to try the twilight peep, but haven’t gotten around to it. I still might. Even if the brass ring doesn’t help with light transmission, it might help with finding the peep. Also, the brass contrasting with blued steel is attractive. Kind of like an architectural detail. Larry
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Original Lyman and Marbles were made with flip-down apertures. You could choose between very small and somewhat larger period that works OK.
You can also simply unscrew the aperture and use the threaded ring to center the front site under the dimmest light.
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I agree with what you say. I want to hunt a special regs area(no centerfire rifles) and don't want to buy a special regs weapon. I just like the rifle with the iron sights. It will work out in the end, and it is fun to think about this stuff.
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