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Only risk in snapping a gun closed with the hammers cocked is the possibility of jarring them off if the gun is a bit worn. I carry cocked and at the port. Lagopus..... I do the same thing when I’m hunting with a hammer gun. I never thought the practice of cocking on the rise was very practical or efficient. I know a couple of guys with hands like Andre the giant who can do that with good (decent) results, but I’ve never been very keen on it. I have pretty normal hands, and I haveno trouble cooking on a flushed pheasant. A grouse might be a bit tougher. I would never carry cocked and hot. Not happening
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Only risk in snapping a gun closed with the hammers cocked is the possibility of jarring them off if the gun is a bit worn. I carry cocked and at the port. Lagopus..... I do the same thing when I’m hunting with a hammer gun. I never thought the practice of cocking on the rise was very practical or efficient. I know a couple of guys with hands like Andre the giant who can do that with good (decent) results, but I’ve never been very keen on it. I have pretty normal hands, and I haveno trouble cooking on a flushed pheasant. A grouse might be a bit tougher. I would never carry cocked and hot. Not happening Good for you Brent. Nobody cares.
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Good evening Flychamps. Just an opinion from the peanut gallery. That looks to be an original center-fire gun. If it is 1866 that is very early for a center-fire shotgun. The center-fire cap shotgun shells had just almost simultaneous been patented in 1866 in March in the USA by Berdan and a few months later in UK by Boxer. (Interesting that the Berdan patent is now used in Europe and Boxer in the USA).
There are almost no original extant centerfire shotguns I've been able to find before 1866 (and I'll surely be proven wrong in this - nothing is sure in the gun business). So with the pistol grip and weight, wondering if your Lang might originally have been a small bore center-fire rifle converted to a shotgun when Woodward rebarreled it? For curiosity. . .what are the barrel lengths? (Standard UK shotgun barrel lengths for this period of time was 30"...which of course varied). This statistic would only be relevant if the barrels were rebored and not replaced. My Lang letters as being a 16 bore "breach loading centre fire hammer gun" with 29" barrels weighing 2# 3oz. The replacement barrels are 27" and weigh 2# 12.4oz, 9.4oz more than the originals, so the original barrels must have been struck pretty thin. The rib of the replacement barrels is engraved "James Woodward" and in 1872 he added "& Sons" to the company name so the replacement barrels are from around 1872 or earlier. Also, I believe that Daw introduced the French designed center fire shotshell to the UK in 1861. If you want to look at the gun I'll have it at the Vintage Cup next week and can be reached at 803 530 5380.
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Thanks eeb. Very good reply and I learn something everyday.
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Only risk in snapping a gun closed with the hammers cocked is the possibility of jarring them off if the gun is a bit worn. I carry cocked and at the port. Lagopus..... I do the same thing when I’m hunting with a hammer gun. I never thought the practice of cocking on the rise was very practical or efficient. I know a couple of guys with hands like Andre the giant who can do that with good (decent) results, but I’ve never been very keen on it. I have pretty normal hands, and I have no trouble cooking on a flushed pheasant. A grouse might be a bit tougher. I would never carry cocked and hot. Not happening I don't hunt with a hammergun. I could never accomplish being a good hunter with one. Maybe at targets if the gun is already cocked. Where I live, there are no quail or grouse. In fact, there are no public grounds to even hunt on. 2 state hunting areas where they release pheasants. And people shoot shoulder to shoulder on the first few days. Guys on here would get after me because I said once that I hunted with the safety off on my Model 21 that I use when I hunted pheasant. I finally saw the light, I guess and changed that. So, good for you guys who practice safety.
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Only risk in snapping a gun closed with the hammers cocked is the possibility of jarring them off if the gun is a bit worn. I carry cocked and at the port. Lagopus..... I do the same thing when I’m hunting with a hammer gun. I never thought the practice of cocking on the rise was very practical or efficient. I know a couple of guys with hands like Andre the giant who can do that with good (decent) results, but I’ve never been very keen on it. I have pretty normal hands, and I have no trouble cooking on a flushed pheasant. A grouse might be a bit tougher. I would never carry cocked and hot. Not happening I don't hunt with a hammergun. I could never accomplish being a good hunter with one. Maybe at targets if the gun is already cocked. Where I live, there are no quail or grouse. In fact, there are no public grounds to even hunt on. 2 state hunting areas where they release pheasants. And people shoot shoulder to shoulder on the first few days. Guys on here would get after me because I said once that I hunted with the safety off on my Model 21 that I use when I hunted pheasant. I finally saw the light, I guess and changed that. So, good for you guys who practice safety. Had there not been a potato famine and the first version of a world war brewing, I would run with my ancestors left Europe so they could have hammerless guns. Why make it harder on yourself? Best, Ted
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Only risk in snapping a gun closed with the hammers cocked is the possibility of jarring them off if the gun is a bit worn. I carry cocked and at the port. Lagopus..... I do the same thing when I’m hunting with a hammer gun. I never thought the practice of cocking on the rise was very practical or efficient. I know a couple of guys with hands like Andre the giant who can do that with good (decent) results, but I’ve never been very keen on it. I have pretty normal hands, and I haveno trouble cooking on a flushed pheasant. A grouse might be a bit tougher. I would never carry cocked and hot. Not happening Good for you Brent. Nobody cares. I certainly. My dog and my hunting partners care as well. If you don't, that's fine with me Mr Short Fuse
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Ted: This won't be an everyday thing. My brummy 16 BLE has already proven itself as my best option there. This is purely affectation. I like how this gun feels in my hands and I'd like to use it on a beautiful day and in a beautiful place. Over a pointing dog might be different (better) but you know what grouse are like. This will be fun on occation, but limited to only that.
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