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FlyChamps: I'd love to see some photography of your gun. 16 is it, how is it configured?

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Originally Posted by Lloyd3
FlyChamps: I'd love to see some photography of your gun. 16 is it, how is it configured?

It's a somewhat unusual in that it is q pistol grip and was rebarreled in Damascus by James Woodward. My photo is not as detailed as yours but the engraving is very similar in style.

I've shot over 6,500 cartridges in this gun.

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Originally Posted by FlyChamps
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FlyChamps: I'd love to see some photography of your gun. 16 is it, how is it configured?

It's a somewhat unusual in that it is q pistol grip and was rebarreled in Damascus by James Woodward. My photo is not as detailed as yours but the engraving is very similar in style.

I've shot over 6,500 cartridges in this gun.

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They don't come nicer than that. Is it fairly light? That round action looks very svelte.

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FlyChamps: I'd love to see some photography of your gun. 16 is it, how is it configured?

It's a somewhat unusual in that it is q pistol grip and was rebarreled in Damascus by James Woodward. My photo is not as detailed as yours but the engraving is very similar in style.

I've shot over 6,500 cartridges in this gun.

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They don't come nicer than that. Is it fairly light? That round action looks very svelte.

It's 6# 7.5oz.

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Good evening Flychamps. Just an opinion from the peanut gallery. That looks to be an original center-fire gun. If it is 1866 that is very early for a center-fire shotgun. The center-fire cap shotgun shells had just almost simultaneous been patented in 1866 in March in the USA by Berdan and a few months later in UK by Boxer. (Interesting that the Berdan patent is now used in Europe and Boxer in the USA).

There are almost no original extant centerfire shotguns I've been able to find before 1866 (and I'll surely be proven wrong in this - nothing is sure in the gun business). So with the pistol grip and weight, wondering if your Lang might originally have been a small bore center-fire rifle converted to a shotgun when Woodward rebarreled it? For curiosity. . .what are the barrel lengths? (Standard UK shotgun barrel lengths for this period of time was 30"...which of course varied). This statistic would only be relevant if the barrels were rebored and not replaced.

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Lovely gun, but the fences are very different from mine. Weight is about the same however.

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hunting with a hammer gun . . . Had a chance to ask the late Gene Hill his opinion. He suggested hammers cocked, but gun broken open. I'd think that might work where you're not walking through cover where getting crud into the action could be a problem.
I had a really nice Husqvarna hammer 16. Windy day on the prairie, and I did walk in on my dog's point with the hammers cocked and the gun closed (just a few last steps very cautiously). The birds held and I took a double. Sometimes wish I'd kept that gun.

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Only risk in snapping a gun closed with the hammers cocked is the possibility of jarring them off if the gun is a bit worn. I carry cocked and at the port. Lagopus.....

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Originally Posted by lagopus
Only risk in snapping a gun closed with the hammers cocked is the possibility of jarring them off if the gun is a bit worn. I carry cocked and at the port. Lagopus.....

I do the same thing when I’m hunting with a hammer gun. I never thought the practice of cocking on the rise was very practical or efficient. I know a couple of guys with hands like Andre the giant who can do that with good (decent) results, but I’ve never been very keen on it.

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