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The colonel makes some excellent points and to most I agree. However, I am less and less hopeful that the divisions in America, concerning liberals and conservatives, will be peacefully resolved. I am not a revolutionary, in the sense that a couple members here have referred to me, but I will not compromise my beliefs and ethics and morals to find "common ground". I know the colonel wasn't advocating that, but many do, in the name of civility and "progress". Democrats and Republicans could once find some common ground, enough to make some meaningful legislation, but when one of the above parties (you figure out which) decided to go ultra-lib, and advocate for the agendas they now do, finding common ground became almost impossible. The Constitution of the United States is a sacred document and I will never accept it being treated as something that should be modified to fit the times. The descendants (by belief, not necessarily by bloodline) of the founding fathers, who founded this nation on a belief in God and His Holy Word, cannot compromise these beliefs and mores. I cannot.

"Polarization" was the buzz word, maybe a decade ago, to describe the state of affairs our nation's government was/is in. It was berated by both sides as being terrible. I said then, and say now, that polarization is impossible to avoid when the values and core beliefs of such a large contingent of America veer so far away from the word of God. True believers will not "go along to get along". I place myself solidly in that group. May God help us all.

Icraigd ..it has to do with going after people using the dept.of justice as a club. the same as going after people who hunt shoot going after people who believe differently then you do going after reporters going after FFL dealers.putting an anti gun anti hunting person in charge of the BLM.and all of the things I list you pick the Catholic angle .why aren't you worried about an administration that wants to end hunting shooting gun ownership you won't be needing any notox shot if you don't have a gun.and yes there are lots of people in the administration who want on outright ban on guns

I see it as one of many, and the same ideology goes hand in hand with rest of the agenda. I see a multi part worry, but when educators among us are agenda driven, I am fully certain that they require their political leanings to be part of the core curriculum.

The hypocrisy around their progressive version of Catholicism is interesting, when I'm not so sure the prez can tie his shoes. Certainly, old double barrel, fire two shots in the air, doesn't make him a friend of the community, but there are many voters on autopilot, that gladly give free reign. Maybe, they are taught that, maybe they must teach it, because they message that they are above question?

In answer to your question on hypocrites, yes and no, if they held the beliefs of what they claim to be yes, if they claim a label while actively undermining the faith they purport, then they are simply opportunistic liars. One cannot claim membership and then utterly repudiate and undermine.

What does that have to do with non-tox and the rest? If the opposition cannot honestly adhere to our constitution in their public service, or to the faith they claim, then they demonstrate a consistency which requires my opposition. I believe in our constitution and expect likewise in our public service. I know people are flawed and not perfectly consistent; however fatally flawed ones must be opposed as the flaws are indicative of a cancer on the body politic. That cancer is further shown in their insensible policies. The example I earlier pointed out that the left in California claim climate change is a major crisis that requires Herculean action now, but then adopt policies that are actually growing emissions and damaging the natural environment they claim sacred. They fly private jets to resorts to commiserate. They are hypocrites and intellectually inconsistent in their stated beliefs and actions. You cannot claim to want to help the poor then price them out and trap them in their status.

Our traditions are both a target of their ridiculous ideal, and a side effect of their defective world view. Their actions in their incoherence are coherent to that view. MC’s example helps show that.

Let’s get a few things straight, Mr. Obfuscation. I never sold you a gun. Period. Never would. You bought a gun at an auction, and begged for free help. I knew the gun, bought it, serviced it, sold it, to someone who wasn’t an idiot, maybe a month tops at my house. That was a long time before it became your gun. I never shot it, as it had enough right hand cast to knock a lefty silly. At least one Darne owner here called you out on your nonsense about misregulation being an issue with Darne guns. He had owned more than a few.

An English trained gunmaker, with a lifetime of experience in the matter, told you right here what the likely problem was. You ignored him.

I pattern guns regularly. But the process for doing that, for a species like Ruffed Grouse, sure doesn’t require help from an internet shotgun website.

Unless you are a college professor.

Best,
Ted

They came for the jews I said nothing,they came for the Muslims ,I said nothing they came for the Catholics I said nothing,,this is what is going to happen.never give an inch

Worth quoting Martin Niemöller (1892–1984) accurately Mark.
He was a Lutheran pastor in Germany, who initially supported Nazi political movements. After Adolf Hitler came to power in 1933, Niemöller became an outspoken critic of Hitler’s interference in the Protestant Church, which was many ways colluding with the Nazis. He spent 1937 to 1945 in Nazi prisons and concentration camps, along with other members of the "Confessing Church", Catholics, and other "undesirables".
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Confessing-Church

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.



Dietrich Bonhoeffer paid for his opposition with his life.
"Silence in the face of evil is itself evil. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act."
(Though attributed to Bonhoeffer, this quote does not appear in any of his letters or works and is found in Robert K. Hudnut's A Sensitive Man and the Christ, 1971)

The Cost of Discipleship
"Jesus bluntly calls the evil person evil. If I am assailed, I am not to condone or justify aggression. Patient endurance of evil does not mean a recognition of its rights. That is sheer sentimentality, and Jesus will have nothing to do with it. The shameful assault, the deed of violence and the act of exploitation are still evil."


Christians are called to be peacemakers, but making peace is never enabling sin. But every disagreement is not grounds for hating the one with opposing views...unless hate is one's "meat and drink" (Romans 14:17-19)


A.W. Tozer, Jesus, Our Man in Glory, Chapter 6 - "Jesus, Standard of Righteousness"
Hebrew 1:9a You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness...
It is a sin for the children of God not to hate what ought to be hated. Study long and well the record and the teachings of Jesus while He was on earth. Our Lord Jesus loved righteousness, but He hated iniquity. I think we can say He hated sin and wrong and evil perfectly!
If we are committed, consecrated Christians, truly disciples of the crucified and risen Christ, there are some things we must face.
We cannot love honesty without hating dishonesty.
We cannot love purity without hating impurity.
We cannot love truth without hating lying and deceitfulness.
Jesus never hated a sinner, but He hated the evil and depravity that controlled the sinner. He did not hate the proud Pharisee, but He detested the pride and self-righteousness of the Pharisee.

I apologize if I'm reading you wrong Doc Drew, but you may be misreading, if you detect hatred? Intolerance of secular progressive agendas, detest the pride and self-righteousness of joandkamala supporter, why not?

Craig: we are to hate what God hates...not those He gave His son to save (John 3:16)
God hates sin
Deuteronomy 27:26 & James 2:10-11 are clear that there is no hierarchy of sin, but some sins however do have greater consequences than other sins. (Exodus 32:30-31, Matthew 11:24, John 19:11)

And some sins particularly stir the wrath of God
1. In our rebellion and pride imagining Him to be other than who He has revealed Himself to be (Exodus 20:1-3, Psalm 50:17-21, Isaiah 65:2)
2. Child sacrifice and the shedding of innocent blood (2 Kings 17 & 21) ie abortion
3. Leading children into sin (Matthew 18:6-7) ie the sexualization of children
and
Proverbs 6:16-19
There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers.

Starting each day (or post) with a big chug of hatred ultimately destroys one's soul.

A blessed Lord's day to all.

Drew you got my point.you know what I'm saying.you post the original quote,I made my point