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Sandlapper, Ernest Marlette is now a Krieghoff dealer/gunsmith in Winston Salem.

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Sandlapper,
You need to be looking at Krieghoffs, Perazzis, Kolars, Zolis, Beretta DT11s and CG Invictus. These are the top end. You owe it to yourself to shoot every model you are interested in before buying as they all feel a bit different. You really should look at the K80 Parcours and handle all 3 barrels (32”, 34” and 32”X). The 34” guns are magnificent! Cole Guns in Florida has many of these available to demo. Dupont in FL can also get you a demo K80 for several weeks as will Kolar.


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John, You are correct about unnecessary recoil with the Merkel, even though it has .729 bores( not the usual undersized German bores), it still works on you after 3-4 boxes are fired. Marcus

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Gentlemen, I have listened to all your well-reasoned input, and read everything on the net I can find about brand preferences of target guns, and have narrowed it down to a Guerini Invictus IX M-Spec 34" model. From what I can see, rightly or wrongly, it combines the mechanics of a high round count clays model with the wood quality and decoration that I want. It seems to be more than a dolled up model built on the same chassis as a lower grade model. Guerini seems to have realized that, in order to be competitive with Kolar, Perazzi, P&V, etc., they had to have a totally new design that can withstand the truckloads of rounds that serious shooters put through these guns. If my logic is faulty, give me your reasons, please. Thanks, Sandlapper

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The Invictus IX is quite literally a dolled up model built on the same chassis as a lower grade model, as you put it. It is the same action as an Invictus I, which is $12k cheaper.

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I certainly like the Invictus M
I suggested it, because he already had a 20 gauge Revenant.

The Invictus line is made for high volume use.
Whatever value a person places on adornment and wood, is always subjective.


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I like mechanical triggers. Hard to go back to inertia for a target gun.

Kolar, Krieghoff and Blaser triggers are exceptional.

I also think modularity is important because, lets face it, you will most likely change your mind a bit and having the option to swap, sell is a good feature.

All three give you that.

Weight system is nice to have to fine tune balance.

Adj Comb is nice to have as well.

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Originally Posted by Kip
The Invictus IX is quite literally a dolled up model built on the same chassis as a lower grade model, as you put it. It is the same action as an Invictus I, which is $12k cheaper.
Originally Posted by Kip
The Invictus IX is quite literally a dolled up model built on the same chassis as a lower grade model, as you put it. It is the same action as an Invictus I, which is $12k cheaper.

The Invictus line/models are different actions from their other basic lines. The Invictus IX is a dolled up version for sure, but the whole Invictus line is different from their non-Invictus Summits, Ascents, Challenger versions. Stronger frame, different trigger, etc.
https://gueriniusa.com/catalog/#caesar-guerini-catalog/page44-page45
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I’ve shot a CG competitively for over 10 years with good results.FYI CG requires their guns be repaired by their smiths. So be prepared to ship your gun to them if repairs are required. They do not supply parts to outside parties.


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I've asked quite a few people at my clays club about their gun choices, and Perazzi seems to be the most popular answer I hear, with the superior handling being noted most often.On the flip side, I'm always hearing about Perazzi's propensity towards sideribs coming loose and the guns having to be worked on all the time, and I wonder why they don't correct these problems. as they seem to be longstanding. Would some of the P- gun shooters on this forum tell me their experiences with these issues? It seems every brand has its deficiencies. Thanks, Sandlapper

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