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Re: question for case color not zs ed good #632426 07/03/23 07:44 AM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,541 Likes: 359 AZ but dreaming of KS Drew Hause Sidelock
Drew Hause Sidelock Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,541 Likes: 359 AZ but dreaming of KS	Lowly Crescent used bone charcoal American Gun Co. No. 60 Empire Hammerless New Empire No. 88 https://sites.google.com/a/damascusknowledge.com/www/home

Re: question for case color not zs ed good #632482 07/04/23 10:43 AM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,541 Likes: 359 AZ but dreaming of KS Drew Hause Sidelock
Drew Hause Sidelock Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,541 Likes: 359 AZ but dreaming of KS	It is hard to find high case colors condition pre-WWI Belgian tradename doubles. This is a c. 1900 Union Machine Co. by Simones, Janssen & Dumoulin. SJ&D also tradenamed Prize Machine Gun, The Interchangable, The International, The Continental (carried by Granny on the Beverly Hillbillies), W.H. Hamilton, H.S. Brown,; often marked with the June 20, 1883 T.J. Bovy patent. I suspect most tradename guns had case colors similar to that of U.S. makers Pre-WW1 Francotte VL&D 14E 20g This is a very nice 1942 Deforney Super Saive 20g We've got a good collection of U.S. maker's colors, but I couldn't find a high condition Lefever. Could someone please post an image? https://sites.google.com/a/damascusknowledge.com/www/home

Re: question for case color not zs ed good #632484 07/04/23 11:27 AM
Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 3,298 Likes: 370 McLean, Virginia Argo44 Sidelock
Argo44 Sidelock Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 3,298 Likes: 370 McLean, Virginia	More from Ed with comments by Drew and 2piper: https://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=512808&page=1 Discussion of French shotgun case colors with pictures still up: Jaspage - case coloring Jaspé(e) - case colored https://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=489548 Last edited by Argo44; 07/04/23 11:31 AM. Baluch are not Brahui, Brahui are Baluch
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Re: question for case color not zs Drew Hause #632502 07/04/23 05:53 PM
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 104 Likes: 1 United States K Crowley Sidelock
K Crowley Sidelock Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 104 Likes: 1 United States	Per Drew's request. Lefever H Grade, 16ga, 1909 https://www.crowleyimages.com/

Re: question for case color not zs ed good #632504 07/04/23 06:45 PM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,541 Likes: 359 AZ but dreaming of KS Drew Hause Sidelock
Drew Hause Sidelock Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,541 Likes: 359 AZ but dreaming of KS	Thank you. Small images, but also with primarily indigo colors https://sites.google.com/a/damascusknowledge.com/www/home
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Re: question for case color not zs ed good #632534 07/05/23 12:26 PM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,541 Likes: 359 AZ but dreaming of KS Drew Hause Sidelock
Drew Hause Sidelock Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,541 Likes: 359 AZ but dreaming of KS	I haven't been able to find pre-WWII Spanish doubles with decent case colors. It appears into the 60s some were bone charcoal Ugartechea AYA No. 3 A more recent AYA No. 4 with what I believe is chemical colors Nice Arrieta 578 with bone charcoal A $15,000 Armas Garbi Model 101 at William Larkin Moore with cyanide colors https://sites.google.com/a/damascusknowledge.com/www/home

Re: question for case color not zs ed good #632921 07/15/23 09:21 AM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 831 Likes: 10 Canada CJO Sidelock
CJO Sidelock Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 831 Likes: 10 Canada	Sorry Drew but the picture of the second Parker is an early one of mine not Dr Gaddy’s….his were much nicer 😉 All best Claudio The taste of poor quality lingers long after the cheap price is forgotten.........
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Re: question for case color not zs ed good #632935 07/15/23 03:10 PM
Joined: Nov 2020 Posts: 145 Likes: 30 fab500 Sidelock
fab500 Sidelock Joined: Nov 2020 Posts: 145 Likes: 30	https://m.facebook.com/story.php?st...amp;id=100015330733933&sfnsn=scwspmo Jaspage au bain de cyanure.

Re: question for case color not zs ed good #633373 07/26/23 11:56 AM
Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 3,298 Likes: 370 McLean, Virginia Argo44 Sidelock
Argo44 Sidelock Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 3,298 Likes: 370 McLean, Virginia	Ad today on Gun Broker for a French Saint-Etienne 12 ga SxS boxlock, barrels made by Didier Drevet 1907 - 12466?? chamber marked in cm 6.5. Gun was marketed apparently in Dieppe. Pretty gun; particularly like the stock. The seller claims the case colors (Jaspage) are original or a well done remake. Any comments on the case colors? https://www.gunbroker.com/item/998258318 Last edited by Argo44; 07/26/23 12:02 PM. Baluch are not Brahui, Brahui are Baluch

Re: question for case color not zs ed good #633380 07/26/23 02:12 PM
Joined: Apr 2018 Posts: 371 Likes: 98 southern New Mexico graybeardtmm3 Sidelock
graybeardtmm3 Sidelock Joined: Apr 2018 Posts: 371 Likes: 98 southern New Mexico	i've been watching that french gun for some time now....seller is slowly reducing the price - i think he started at $1500. i find the checkering pattern on the typically french "semi pistol grip" knob strikingly handsome....and the gun as a whole is tempting. that's a long time for original case colors to remain as crisp as they appear, but the overall condition of the gun shows little wear, and i don't see any telltale signs of refinishing - or, if so, the workman was very capable. best regards, tom "it's a poor sort of memory that only works backwards." lewis carroll, Alice in Wonderland

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