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shotgun case color reference guide #632347 07/02/23 07:41 AM
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 9,740 Likes: 97 nh mostly ed good OP Sidelock
OP ed good Sidelock Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 9,740 Likes: 97 nh mostly	https://www.gunbroker.com/item/994476884 are the colors bone and charcoal or cyanide or chemical compound or torch or? Last edited by ed good; 07/02/23 11:15 AM.

Re: question for case color not zs ed good #632349 07/02/23 09:39 AM
Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 2,268 Likes: 93 Versailles battle Sidelock
battle Sidelock Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 2,268 Likes: 93 Versailles	Well Ed this could get interesting... But to answer your question, I think its Cyanide.

Re: question for case color not zs ed good #632351 07/02/23 10:03 AM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,426 Likes: 314 AZ but dreaming of KS Drew Hause Sidelock
Drew Hause Sidelock Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,426 Likes: 314 AZ but dreaming of KS	Here you go ed. I guess you have forgotten these threads from 2009, but have successfully baited a response to your every 3 month sincere seeking of case color knowledge https://doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=129981 https://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=128436 The images are gone from those threads, so here's the real thing for Forum members genuinely interested. Note the "ghosting" around the pins. Marlin era Smith with original cyanide colors Original, but faded, Parker colors C.J. Opacak bone charcoal re-color A twofer - cyanide AND torch This is nice Please spare us the victim routine ed. You accomplished your goal. Last edited by Drew Hause; 07/15/23 05:20 PM. Reason: Attribution corrected https://sites.google.com/a/damascusknowledge.com/www/home
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Re: question for case color not zs ed good #632353 07/02/23 10:33 AM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,426 Likes: 314 AZ but dreaming of KS Drew Hause Sidelock
Drew Hause Sidelock Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,426 Likes: 314 AZ but dreaming of KS	Cyanide colors are nothing new. Some turn-of-the-century hardware store singles had bone charcoal colors - an Iver Johnson. Note the 'ghosting' again Harrington & Richardson cyanide colors https://sites.google.com/a/damascusknowledge.com/www/home

Re: question for case color not zs ed good #632354 07/02/23 10:41 AM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,426 Likes: 314 AZ but dreaming of KS Drew Hause Sidelock
Drew Hause Sidelock Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,426 Likes: 314 AZ but dreaming of KS	At one point Krieghoff actions were reportedly Bohler chrome-molybdenum-vanadium but now are (likely - they ain't saying nor is Beretta's "Tri-alloy") AISI 4340 Cr/Mo/Ni It is hard to obtain bone charcoal case colors with 4140 or 4340. AISI 8620 (also Cr/Mo/Ni) is more easily case hardened (carburized), or nitrided Reportedly Krieghoff was using some form of chemical coloring for the actions that are not silver nitride https://www.trapshooters.com/threads/krieghoff-case-color-hardening.260887/ K-80 Super Scroll possibly chemically colored - no 'ghosting' This is likely bone charcoal with the 'ghosting' https://www.dupontkguns.com/kriegho...ardened-k-80-receiver-iron-only-135309r/ Lots of examples here http://www.paxtonarms.com/Krieghoff.htm https://sites.google.com/a/damascusknowledge.com/www/home

Re: question for case color not zs ed good #632355 07/02/23 10:58 AM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,426 Likes: 314 AZ but dreaming of KS Drew Hause Sidelock
Drew Hause Sidelock Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,426 Likes: 314 AZ but dreaming of KS	Giacomo offers cyanide "tiger stripe" coloring and bone charcoal to re-color Perazzi https://sites.google.com/a/damascusknowledge.com/www/home

Re: question for case color not zs ed good #632356 07/02/23 11:05 AM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,426 Likes: 314 AZ but dreaming of KS Drew Hause Sidelock
Drew Hause Sidelock Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,426 Likes: 314 AZ but dreaming of KS	Early on Hunter Arms used bone charcoal on the Fulton guns but late switched to cyanide colors https://sites.google.com/a/damascusknowledge.com/www/home

Re: question for case color not zs ed good #632357 07/02/23 11:14 AM
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 9,740 Likes: 97 nh mostly ed good OP Sidelock
OP ed good Sidelock Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 9,740 Likes: 97 nh mostly	wow, what a plethera of data images of a variery of shotgun case colors... valuable indeed for future reference...in fact, so valuable to change the name of this thread to: "shotgun case reference guide" and it would be valuable if others would ad images of shotgun case colors not referenced above... original or redo, so long as ided as such... Last edited by ed good; 07/02/23 11:22 AM. keep it simple and keep it safe...

Re: question for case color not zs ed good #632359 07/02/23 11:25 AM
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Kip Sidelock Joined: Oct 2022 Posts: 53 Likes: 19 Idaho	I always like the colors that come from Richard St. Ledger in Birmingham. I believe he is used by Purdey and Westley Richards today, although not 100% certain on that.

Re: question for case color not zs ed good #632360 07/02/23 11:30 AM
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OP ed good Sidelock Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 9,740 Likes: 97 nh mostly	kip, thats great... it would be wonderful if you would post an image of st ledgers colors... keep it simple and keep it safe...

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