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Why have and does the gun community insist on saying "Aya" for AyA, which is the abbreviation for Aguirre and Aranzabal? Some even go so far as to say "A Y A". Huh?
JR

better than pos...

It actually would be >>Ah e Ah<<

Serbus,

Raimey
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People don't know what the AYA means. Maybe the guns that are sold here in the USA should be marked A&A?

The Darne guy chuckles. Welcome to my neighborhood.

Best,
Ted

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Not “Darnay”.

English abbreviations, of Spanish names and words does not translate well. AyA, A and A, or whatever you want to call them have sold more double guns than anybody else I think. I have read over 600,000 so far according to Holts. Everything from lowest field grade, non ejector to decent knockoffs of H&H side plates, with everything in between. Plus a decent knock off O/U.

Their cheap box locks was the final blow to the English gun trade for domestic box lock production. Their made to order side plates were cheaper than the used H&H market. They even made a ton of 25” guns. So no major part of the trade was not covered. Perhaps the only market they did not exploit was the very high end and that market is name driven, extremely high quality and very small.

But in the US all we saw for years were the lowest grades so our opinion of them has suffered. I have a number of model 4 in several gauges. They all give good service, are a joy to shoot and carry and did not break the bank. AyA owners mostly don’t care how you spell their name. They work, don’t need much maintenance and are still undervalued.

It's because we're Americans. We're jingoistic, ethnocentric and because we are the biggest market for everything in the world, we get to do it our way (or, at least we have until now). What's wrong with that?

I sold them for over 10 years and called them AyAs, even knowing what the translation was. If a client asked about the meaning of name I would happily explain it for them and then we would go right back to callen them AyAs. Nobody over in Spain ever complained about it that I ever heard of. They were just happy to see them selling so they could make more.

The No. 4 round-actions are really very nice guns for the money, whether they're called "Bournebrook" or not.

My guess is that there is some "incorrect" version in every country. Who in all honesty would use their proper name in a casual conversation? Just like BMW. Try dropping that correct name everytime you discuss one.

We had a top-of-line gun in the shop for years, an extra-long sidelock 20 with the best of everything that the folks in Spain had sent over as a consignment. Set it next to a Pudey or a Boss and it wasn't giving anything up to them. The price kept going down and down to the point where even cheap ole' me was considering it. AyA finally asked for it back.