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I just checked a major web site offering guns for sale and had a quick look at every M21 skeet gun---only one M21 had WS1/WS1 choking. So I have answered by own question---this choke combination is uncommon---why shooters chose WS1/WS2 vs WS1/WS1 is open for debate. Maybe for doubles trap, since you are shooting from approximately the same distance on each shot? Or maybe for skeet for the same reason. I use my Model 21 for skeet that has been opened to Imp/Cyl and Imp/Cyl. It has always worked fairly well. I guess you'd have to ask someone who ordered a gun in that configuration.
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On page 4 of Guns International right now Steve Barnett has a SKEET 20 gauge for sale, with the Cody papers markedSK1/SK1.
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I did a quick web search for Winchester Model 12 skeet guns and, of the ones that I found, all had WS1 chokes---I'm sure there must be some M12's with WS2 chokes but I didn't find any.
Interesting that M21 skeet shooters favoured WS1/WS2 chokes but M12 skeet shooters preferred SK1 chokes.
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On page 4 of Guns International right now Steve Barnett has a SKEET 20 gauge for sale, with the Cody papers markedSK1/SK1. Thanks, Jimmy.
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I did a quick web search for Winchester Model 12 skeet guns and, of the ones that I found, all had WS1 chokes---I'm sure there must be some M12's with WS2 chokes but I didn't find any.
Interesting that M21 skeet shooters favoured WS1/WS2 chokes but M12 skeet shooters preferred SK1 chokes. I just checked Dave Riffle's Model 12 book and there is lots of references to M12 skeet guns but no mention of whether it might be WS! or WS2 chokes. Looks like most were WS1 and perhaps WS2 was by special order.
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My buddy came into my club about ten years ago. He said that he had just seen the neatest gun up at some little gun store not far from me. It was a 16 gauge Winchester Model 12. And it had the butt pad crushed from sitting in a closet for so long. I asked him if he bought it and he said no. I went up the next day to look at it. It was the sweetest little gun. Beautiful wood. And sure enough, the pad was crushed right down to the wood. So, I bought it. $375.00 I took it home and put a nice leather covered KICKEEZ pad on it. It doesn't have a Cutts on it- it has a Weaver compensator on it. ( I have never seen one before or since) The guy gave me all the chokes in this neat little antique sewing thread box. I put in a cylinder choke and it shot skeet like a dream. And it is stamped- WS-1. Did I mention that the wood is just gorgeous? No..... I never told my buddy that I bought it. I know. I know. Where's the pictures? 
Last edited by Jimmy W; 06/22/23 07:28 AM.
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Jimmy:
I have an extremely worn 16 gauge Model 12 with the Weaver choke system and a full set of the choke tubes in two apparently homemade leather cases. The system works fine, but I think it ugly enough to make a Cutts look good by comparison.
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On page 4 of Guns International right now Steve Barnett has a SKEET 20 gauge for sale, with the Cody papers markedSK1/SK1. That is WS-1 and WS-1. As per usual they don't show us a picture of the bottom of the barrels to see the choke markings.
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My 16 gauge Model 12 ![[Linked Image from jpgbox.com]](https://www.jpgbox.com/jpg/70394_1000x600.jpg) [/URL]
USAF RET 1971-95 ![[Linked Image from jpgbox.com]](http://www.jpgbox.com/jpg/57865_80x60.jpg)
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My M 21 mfd 1932 (Tournament Skeet 20) has Sk-1/Sk-2. I sure wish both barrels were Sk-1. I don't switch the selector back and forth to shoot the outgoing bird with the Sk-2 barrel--just because I figure that is one more thing that could get out of wack.
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