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Elevated bird, coming from above, and behind you, shows the whole underside.

Mount on the front edge push the gun down and head until you see a couple feet, and send it.
For that kind of a presentation, you really need to use pull ahead or sustain lead, because the gun barrels will block the bird if you use swing through.

A 60 foot tower, which is a pretty good sized manlift, is still only 20 yards above grade.

So skeet distance above you. If you are good at spatial orientation, it’s probably like taking the high bird closer to the out of bounds stake when shooting from station 2 two.
9’s might be too light at that dist.


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I would be wary about carrying a WS1 Model 21 in the grouse woods. The muzzle wall thickness is .010 or less in some guns and very easy to dent. I have a dented 20 gauge in the gun room now and it hasn't even been in the woods.

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My circa 1933 12 gauge Model 21 has Cylinder/Modified chokes and 26 inch barrels which I think are just about perfect for grouse and woodcock.

I've never had the barrels measured for thickness but don't recall them being too thin at the muzzle to worry about.



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Modified and cylinder are not the chokes that are too thin. The WS1 is too thin.

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The Last time I shot Sporting Clays on our course was about 5 years ago. I was shooting my Citori Lightning- 12 gauge. I'd lost all my screw in chokes at the time and I had to shoot what was in the gun. Cylinder and Cylinder. I was surprised at how many I broke that day, I believe I had a 44 which was my best score ever at Sporting Clays at the time. Mainly because I had only shot them a couple of times before that. But I was really shocked at how easy I broke them with those two chokes. Must have been my lucky day, I guess.

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