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A good gun is a good gun. Your money will go farther buying the gun and not the name!

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Mark;

I noticed that I neglected to write that the pair of 20 bore best quality sidelock ejectors that were made by Webley & Scott were William Evans "named" guns. I went back and edited my post to correct this.

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mark, beg to differ...

examples being parkers an purdeys...

both bring bigger bucks than similar quality guns, because of name...

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Gee edd both parker and purdey are names ,you will pay a premium on names.buy quality gun not high status name.you can buy a Scott branded gun for less then a Holland's branded gun of the same type sold by each company .i know you trying to develop interest in a evens your hawking.

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The renown British gun author, gun historian and general authority on British guns, Douglas Tate has been quoted numerous times stating that "you buy the gun, not the name". However, it takes knowledge and experience to be able to know the difference, and the number that do are few, very few. A.A. Brown can and has built guns equal or better to a Purdey, and how many have even any knowledge of this gunmaking firm and its owner Robin Brown, much less be able to describe the difference of the form of a single bar action versus a double bar action.

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My favorite gun company's are J Wilkes ,and aa brown,both have made guns for the big named gun company's there own named guns are beautiful.

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In order to buy the gun, not the name, you must have some basic knowledge of gun actions and the engineering behind them. Most people do not and moreover, are not interested in learning any of it. But, they love to spout opinions about "fit and finish" while ignoring glaring engineering drawbacks.

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Shotgunlover,,most English guns since the 1900 are A&D. Holland and Holland. Purdey. W W greener .greener wasnt widely copied.that takes care of engineering questions

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Originally Posted by mc
Shotgunlover,,most English guns since the 1900 are A&D. Holland and Holland. Purdey. W W greener .greener wasnt widely copied.that takes care of engineering questions

r.e. WW Greener - I have seen far more Facile Princeps models than A&D guns from Greener, although he made both, as well as sidelocks.

I do not think that 'engineering' questions are quite so easily disposed of.


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Exactly greener had a propriety gun that almost No one copied.i don't think greener made all there A&D action guns I think they bought them from brazier at least quite a few.if you look at engineering of A&D Holland's purdey these guns were engineered in 1875 1885 and 1890 and the designs are still being made.so as far ass English SXS the engineering is settled .

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