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BATF only takes stolen/lost firearms info from an FFL who is reporting the theft/loss from their inventory (shop or a shipment.
The FFL must first get a L/E agency to actually take a Stolen/Lost firearm report.
With that, the CR# from that report is needed when contacting the BATF to make that report to them.
IIRC the FFL has something like 24 or 48 hrs to report a gun missing from their inventory.

What the BATF does with the info is really irrelevent.

With a crime-stolen firearm/or lost firearm report taken by any L/E agency in the USA,,the firearms info will be entered into NCIC in the GunENT system anyway.
Any agency anywhere running that ser# will get a hit on the firearm with the corresponding misc descriptive info of the firearm and the reporting agencys info for contact.
NCIC searches and hits on the ser# only. So sometimes multiple hits come back and the operator has to sort out the info with the descriptive info.

The biggest problem is getting any L/E agency to actually take the report when this type of situation is involved,,,long distance shipping, interstate.
That gets kicked down the road generally.
The usual questions..
How do you know it was actually stolen ?
Where was it actually stolen from?
Where was it last and who had it.?

L/E agencys don't like to have stolen firearms reports in their yearly #'s.

I went through that twice as an FFL.

Hope your rifle gets back to you.
Shipping firearms is a headache and getting worse every day.

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Please explain where we "enter" serial numbers to get a hit. A 4473 does not include serial numbers, and I don't know any other place to enter the number.

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In Canada all insurance companies must have a 'internal ombudsman' and there is a provincial oversite ombudsman. I had to use one on a case with 10 antique guns stolen where the claims managerr auto discounted the value of each by 50%. When I got the ombusman involved they reminded the claims manager that my policy was for replacement value for everything with no discount. Case got cleaned up quickly after that. I didn't receive full value replacement as that was hard to determine but my settlement jumped by over 50% with the ombudsman involved.


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Just spoke to a neighbor who worked at UPS and recently retired.

Said sometimes that if they see a package at the center that is exceptional long that would not make the curves on the belt system they pull it as it would get stuck on a curve and the belt would keep running and packages would back up the belt system

So they hand process it. Maybe this was what was done and then the ball was dropped

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Keep us in the loop.


Good luck!


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Originally Posted by arrieta2
Just spoke to a neighbor who worked at UPS and recently retired.

Said sometimes that if they see a package at the center that is exceptional long that would not make the curves on the belt system they pull it as it would get stuck on a curve and the belt would keep running and packages would back up the belt system

So they hand process it. Maybe this was what was done and then the ball was dropped

John Boyd

Belts were always getting jammed. You’d break the jam and send the packages down the belt. If someone pulled it off the belt they wouldn’t just set it down anywhere they’d hand carry it to where it needed to be. You would always walk the belts after the trucks were unloaded to find all the letters and small packages that fell off. Can’t see how something that size gets “lost” in the building. If it was stolen I’d love to know how the thief got it out of the building and off UPS property. You can get away with it once but UPS is deadly serious about employee theft.

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Maybe a package car loader and driver in cahoots.

It’s scanned into the building, down the belt to the package car, loader doesn’t scan it on to the package car and they split whatever they get.

Thieves’ll get caught at UPS eventually. Doesn’t mean Brian’s gun will show up.

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Or a skeezy manager. Had one get fired for theft when I worked there.

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Originally Posted by lonesome roads
Or a skeezy manager. Had one get fired for theft when I worked there.

Teamster job?

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Don’t have any 1st hand knowledge of this but herd of Employees printing labels with a fictitious account and a friends destination. Some thing that looks of value comes through and they slap the new label over the old label and reroute the package.

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