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That clone of the Aspen Outfitters gun is way overpriced at $5K. Plain wood and unremarkable otherwise, it would be borderline at $3500. They'll learn...
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Originally Posted by Parabola
Sounds like good news.

They were a sound brand. I have a little 20-bore BLNE and a little used 12 bore BLE that I didn’t really need but could not resist snapping up at auction when it was going ridiculously cheap.

Ditto.
Perhaps a decade ago, in my case, and the guns are lingering at about the same money today that they were then. The English gun computer sites are awash in Spanish, non ejector boxlocks for less than £100. The stock could be fitted better on my copy, the bluing is ho-hum, but, it has nice case colors, amateur engraving that doesn’t make me want to puke, serviceable disc set strikers, weighs under 6 1/2 lbs, passed Spanish proof at 3”, and it goes bang when I pull the triggers. I didn’t feel bad opening the chokes and I won’t feel bad feeding it steel if they make me. A guy could do worse on a rainy day gun.

Mr. Robert’s dim viewpoint reflects a sad reality, I’m afraid. There is little market for a boxlock at $4K, anywhere.

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Originally Posted by Ted Schefelbein
[quote=Parabola]Sounds like good news.

Mr. Robert’s dim viewpoint reflects a sad reality, I’m afraid. There is little market for a boxlock at $4K, anywhere.

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Ted, maybe so, but the new Ugartechea boxlock would still be a bargain compared to a new AyA 4/53 entry level boxlock. AyA 4/53 Boxlock This AyA 4/53 entry level boxlock was selling for $8,000 in Canada a couple years ago, and they moved. Somebody must still be buying them. For me they are unaffordable as a new gun.

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They may as well not bother. You can buy a round body Rizzini BR550 with ejectors, choke tubes, machine engraving for that. I have a 16ga with double triggers and left hand wood coming in the spring.

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Originally Posted by Tim Cartmell
Ted, maybe so, but the new Ugartechea boxlock would still be a bargain compared to a new AyA 4/53 entry level boxlock. AyA 4/53 Boxlock This AyA 4/53 entry level boxlock was selling for $8,000 in Canada a couple years ago, and they moved.
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They moved alright. Back to Eibar and AyA...
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Originally Posted by John Roberts
Originally Posted by Tim Cartmell
Ted, maybe so, but the new Ugartechea boxlock would still be a bargain compared to a new AyA 4/53 entry level boxlock. AyA 4/53 Boxlock This AyA 4/53 entry level boxlock was selling for $8,000 in Canada a couple years ago, and they moved.
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They moved alright. Back to Eibar and AyA...
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I don’t know about that, either. It is an expensive pain in the ass to own a gun for the typical Spaniard.

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When myself and Jack Jansma of wingshooting adventures began bringing in the Aya 453 we retailed them at $1995. Man have things changed.

I am not sure about the price point of the Ugartechea at what they are asking. I think New England custom guns will be a tough road to go down. Also the 26” sell slower

I feel the Fair guns are much more interesting price point and they next step above that I would consider the B Rizzini guns

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I agree with John B. The Italian guns are where it’s at in that price range and you can also include the Beretta 486. I have both Rizzini variants and they are reliable with great handling. Optional 26”, 28”, and 30” barrels no problem.

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Originally Posted by Ted Schefelbein
Originally Posted by John Roberts
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Ted, maybe so, but the new Ugartechea boxlock would still be a bargain compared to a new AyA 4/53 entry level boxlock. AyA 4/53 Boxlock This AyA 4/53 entry level boxlock was selling for $8,000 in Canada a couple years ago, and they moved.
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They moved alright. Back to Eibar and AyA...
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I don’t know about that, either. It is an expensive pain in the ass to own a gun for the typical Spaniard.

Best,
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Or the typical Canadian.
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I would seriously doubt that an American purchased the company unless he lived there or knew someone there to look after things


Sounds like a rumor, no name has come up

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