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Are 1950’s era Webley & Scott 700 single triggers reliable?
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Percy Stanbury had a 700 with a single trigger, but, he also had Roland Bloomer to tune it.
I haven’t found a selective single trigger that was something I warned to own. English, or, otherwise. Non selective single triggers seem to have been less problematic in my orbit. But, less useful, in theory.
Good luck.
Best, Ted
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Percy Stanbury had a 700 with a single trigger, but, he also had Roland Bloomer to tune it.
I haven’t found a selective single trigger that was something I warned to own. English, or, otherwise. Non selective single triggers seem to have been less problematic in my orbit. But, less useful, in theory.
Good luck.
Best, Ted Percy Stanbury’s gun was made in the 1920s long before the first 700 came out in 1949. It was most likely a 400 series shotgun.
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Percy Stanbury had a 700 with a single trigger, but, he also had Roland Bloomer to tune it.
I haven’t found a selective single trigger that was something I warned to own. English, or, otherwise. Non selective single triggers seem to have been less problematic in my orbit. But, less useful, in theory.
Good luck.
Best, Ted Have you had the opportunity to try a Miller SST, Ted? I have a Fox A Grade that's fitted with one. Needed a bit of adjustment after I first acquired the gun, but no problems since then. Safe is in the middle. Forward selects the R barrel, back the left. It's about as instantly selective as an SST can get. I've owned a bunch of Ithaca imported SKBs over the years and have found their triggers to be quite reliable.
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Percy Stanbury’s gun was made in the 1920s long before the first 700 came out in 1949. It was most likely a 400 series shotgun.[/quote]
It was indeed a Model 400. From Crawford and Whatley's book on Scott guns: "Percy Stanbury, one of the most famous British shooting coaches, used his Model 400 Proprietary to claim 47 championships between 1926 and 1953."
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I recall seeing a W&S sxs at Holt's with double triggers : could be set to fire as ST R&L, or ST L&R, OR DT but cannot remember if trigger sequence was changeable on the DT setting. Kind of regret not going for it , but then again maybe not.
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Percy Stanbury had a 700 with a single trigger, but, he also had Roland Bloomer to tune it.
I haven’t found a selective single trigger that was something I warned to own. English, or, otherwise. Non selective single triggers seem to have been less problematic in my orbit. But, less useful, in theory.
Good luck.
Best, Ted Percy Stanbury’s gun was made in the 1920s long before the first 700 came out in 1949. It was most likely a 400 series shotgun. I stand corrected. I wonder how much difference there would be from the single trigger installed in a 400, to the version used in the 700? I haven’t heard great praise out of England for W & S single triggers. Just the opposite, actually. Larry, after seeing the carnage inflicted on good English sidelocks to install the Miller, the removal of the intercepting sears being part of that, I lost interest in the Miller. I question why anyone would do that, to a great gun. I also learned to use double triggers so long ago that I have caught myself trying to grab the second trigger, on a single trigger gun, in a warm corner. And I despise the version in the Ruger, Browning, and Beretta, that uses the safety to choose the trigger. The Ruger version literally cost me birds a few times. Just not recently. Best, Ted
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Ted, I totally agree, after acquiring a number of double triggered guns, I've never gone back and wonder why a single trigger would be someone's first choice. I can understand the cold weather/heavy glove scenario, but for all other occasions not. The double trigger setup seems so intuitive to me. Karl
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I have a single double with a single trigger, Karl. You nailed why I keep it around, cold weather with gloves. Well, that, and it was my Dad’s. Non selective, a compromise of sorts, but, after I refinished the wood, and cleaned, serviced, and lubed the action, it has been reliable. Knock on wood. ![[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]](https://i.ibb.co/Gc1tN26/42-CFF75-D-9-C6-D-4103-941-F-EDF6-B5896-C9-B.jpg) Best, Ted
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I have short fingers and when i was younger i could shoot double trigger guns well, but now at 81 fingers are not working so well and sst triggers are better for me. Bobby
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