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Originally Posted by craigd
Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
Originally Posted by canvasback
And I accept the inconvenience of the whole endeavor. If I wanted easy, I'd shoot a modern 20 gauge auto. Easy isn't why I do this. I wave guys off this route if they want easy. I like it the way it is, headaches and all.

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If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.
I wonder if this is sort of private club, top rail drink talk. After a little venting, it's time to settle on dates for the estate .410 shoot.


LOL, It might be....... if I was a member of a private club. Or had a .410. Or didn't like the "hunting" part of hunting.


The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
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The Browning designed pumps, come in several flavors, plus private label like those made for Sears or Wards. I like the early models with the forwards safety but own all three types of safeties . I think all of mine have solid ribs which was not that common.

They work well, but are not what I consider to be the best design or the worst. The worst has to be the Toledo Arms designs, both early and late. The best is a personal choice, with the Remington 31, Ithaca/Remington 37/17 and the Winchester 12/42 all worth owning and shooting. The worst to disassemble and reassemble has to be the Marlin “Chinese puzzle” bolt pumps. They work but seem to be a snake when you are putting them back in order. Once you learn how to do it they are only slightly goofy to work on.

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About gunsmiths; Most are backed up and have more work that you can say grace over. Think about it. Many have retired, passed away, or not able to do as much as they once did. So we have lost some of the good ones. So now there are less gunsmiths to do the work, but the work still needs to be done by the few remaining ones. Now I just can not think of very many new ones popping up to take the place of the others.

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If we want more good doublegun gunsmiths, we need to support the American Custom Gunmakers Guild. An associate membership is $65 for calendar year if I remember correctly. The ACGG is actively trying to pass on gunsmithing skills to the new generation of gunsmiths interested.

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Geez, I thought someone died or got a terminal illness when I saw the title of this Thread. Owning guns, hunting, and shooting has always been as expensive as you want it to be. A bird shot with an English Best gun is not killed any more dead than a bird shot with a Nitro Special. But even the really expensive stuff can still be a relative bargain if you buy intelligently. And what hasn't gotten significantly more costly since anti-gun Democrats got control? Add to that the loss of buying power due to inflation, and what most of us have lost in our 401-K's and other investments, and it's little wonder that many folks are reevaluating the costs of hobbies and other interests... such as buying food...

I'd bet the cost of buying and servicing a new pickup truck has increased more than the cost of buying guns and having them repaired. I do all of my own gun repairs, which may not save me much when I factor in the cost of tools. But I enjoy doing it, and don't have to worry about long waits or FedEx losing or damaging my guns. I have shotshell loaders in 10, 12. 16, 20, and 28 gauge. I also reload for most of my rifles and handguns too. The savings from reloading are not as great as they once were. But it does help, and creates options during times when factory ammo is expensive or in short supply due to panic buying or fear driven hoarding. I fondly recall getting some pretty dirty looks several years ago when Obama was president. I would walk past the ammo vendors at gun shows and loudly ask my buddy, "I wonder how many dumbass Obama voters we have here standing in line to pay a buck a round for .223 shells?" Some pain is self-inflicted.

If things get really bad, I can always watch some YouTube videos and learn to make my own homemade black powder. I plan to continue to keep shooting as long as I have the strength to lift a gun and pull a trigger. Cost or inconvenience isn't going to stop me.


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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From sail boats to vintage guns....

The breeze in your face....reminds me of my Harley days.

Stan I thought a race boat driver like you would be shooting a pimped out semi auto.

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Back in the 50s up to late 80s i did not know what a 2 1/2 shell was and shot 2 3/4 shells in all my vintage doubles and had no problems at all. Bobby

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I joined the $8.00 a box factory shell club, stockpiled a few four packs, just in case. However, I keep seven or eight loaders on the bench in running condition to keep the price of shells under the Walmart price.

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