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#621109 10/24/22 02:13 PM
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Had a call this morning from my close shooting buddy. This guy was responsible for fueling my addiction in English guns. But I could tell he was distraught very fast into the conversation. Started by saying he had just left Fed Ex shipping his nice Boss to a dealer up north. And plans on shipping his Purdey pigeon gun tomorrow as well.
All his other English guns are going as well. Mostly Grants.
His frustration stems from multiple things and last week something happened that broke the camel's back so to speak. Seems he is fed up with repair costs, wait times on repairs (I'm talking months), no 2 1/2" shells nowhere to be found.
But the straw last week was he just got one gun back after months wait at this well know dealer / repair shop and paid almost $1400 for one repair only to find they had scratched the blueing off one of the barrels.
I suppose I should have seen it coming. I mean it's true about everything he was saying. It's expensive for repairs and the long wait. I want a leather pad installed and had to get on a wait list three months ago and still have a month to wait before I just take it there. No telling how long it will be before I see it again.
No ammo and if you find any the cost is more than I can stand, but I pay it anyway.
So for me to hear this guy say all this it just comes back to me everything I have been seeing and hearing for the last two years.


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reload. Always have shells and it's cheaper. I have 1600 16 ga 2.5" shells loaded up. Nothing else to do when I was recovering from shoulder surgery. lol I'm on an 8 month wait list to have a Westley oak and leather case refitted.

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Shooting vintage guns can be like sailing, standing in a cold shower shredding 20’s and 50’s, claiming enjoyment. However the enjoyment does exist in doses that for me overcome the negatives.

For example, after buying a project Boss which took nine months to complete import, then onto restocking last May, back in October just in time for pheasant in South Dakota, the six of seven engaged make it all worth while.

Yes 2 1/2 12 is a pain, especially if you are almost pure 16 as I am, but the pleasure of loading roll crimped 1 1/8 #7 nickel silver plated hard shot, then seeing do beautifully again worthwhile.

I may soon be selling some guns, but only to make room in the budget for another, and to accept the guns I do not use need to be used by someone.


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Originally Posted by old colonel
Shooting vintage guns can be like sailing, standing in a cold shower shredding 20’s and 50’s, claiming enjoyment. However the enjoyment does exist in doses that for me overcome the negatives.

For example, after buying a project Boss which took nine months to complete import, then onto restocking last May, back in October just in time for pheasant in South Dakota, the six of seven engaged make it all worth while.

Yes 2 1/2 12 is a pain, especially if you are almost pure 16 as I am, but the pleasure of loading roll crimped 1 1/8 #7 nickel silver plated hard shot, then seeing do beautifully again worthwhile.

I may soon be selling some guns, but only to make room in the budget for another, and to accept the guns I do not use need to be used by someone.

Well, the big thing I was into before vintage SxS was sailing keel boats. So your analogy rings absolutely true. LOL

I've spent my fair share of time waiting on gunsmiths. I learned early to stockpile the shells I like to use when I could, because you can never find them when you need them. And I accept the inconvenience of the whole endeavor. If I wanted easy, I'd shoot a modern 20 gauge auto. Easy isn't why I do this. I wave guys off this route if they want easy. I like it the way it is, headaches and all.


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I would say that I feel your pain (because I do) but Wm. Jefferson fouled that expression forever. Shooting 16’s exclusively I dealt with the shell question long ago and started reloading everything I shoot. Frankly, it’s part of the enjoyment now and I never tally up the costs.

And as for the ‘smithing costs, there was a period where frustration caused serious reflection. I came out of that with a settled sense that I really, really enjoy owning and shooting and hunting these old SxS’s.

I haven’t looked back.

I’m sorry your friend came out in a different place.


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Well said Canvasback and Old Colonel. And agree with Mike Harrell about reloading. Not only does it solve the problem of 2.5-inch shell scarcity, it enhances the whole experience even for standard-length shells. I enjoyed taking a few doves this past weekend with my LC Smith 12 gauge, choked full and full, using 2.75-inch reloads: 7/8 ounce #7.5 in left barrel, 7/8 ounce #8 with x-stream spreader in right barrel. Perfect for those high-flying late season birds.

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Primers are as scarce as 2.5-inch shells.

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Fortunately I have stockpiled enough for years, and once fired 12 Federal Paper Hulls can be found. Plastic Federal Gold Medal work well too.


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Primers, get yer primers here

https://www.ballisticproducts.com/C...0-boxes-20000-primers/productinfo/CH209/

And the price is now down below $60 per thousand

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For you 16ga guys these made in France offerings have done well in my 2.5 Krupp barreled sxs and a5s. Factory short!
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