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Originally Posted by mc
How smart do you have to be to buy two unreliable guns ?

What, you’ve never bought an unreliable gun? Ever? You’re the smartest guy on this forum? Next time folks should check with you, the smartest guy on the forum to see if a gun that is touted by what seems to be every Tom, Dick & Harry out there to be the most reliable system ever developed for a automatic shotgun, if it’s a good idea to buy one or two of them.

I was smart enough to dump em and not waste anymore time with those turds, so I guess I’m not a totally lost cause.😂

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Hey... shotguns are machines and like all machines parts break and/or wear out. When we used to go to SA shooting in the eighties we took two shotguns each...and not because we were double gunning the doves. Same as when I used to shoot a lot trap. Two guns, as invariably one would break while on the line. I'm a believer in O'Flannigan's law....he thought Murphy was an optimist.

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I bought two SBE2 for my sons. One has had the dreaded click three times while the other has never had one, so far. I bought a SBE3 for my daughter in law for her graduation from medical school. She loves it and uses it for everything. So far, so good but it has only had a few thousand rounds through it.

There are good and bad examples in every thing. My father had a set of Goodyear OEM tire on a new Chevy which he got 95,000 miles out of. When he went to buy a new set of Goodyears they tried to talk him into a better grade if tires to get longer life. When he pointed out that they were the factory tires and had 95,000 miles with tread still remaining they were amazed. His second set had 80,000 miles on them when he got rid of the tires. I struggle
To get 40,000 miles out of any Goodyear tire. Good and bad.

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A few years ago I was sitting in a blind on San Francisco Bay and three drake canvasbacks flew past. I grabbed my M1 Super 90 and the trigger group fell in my lap. The fiddly little clip on the retaining pin had disappeared.

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Originally Posted by LGF
A few years ago I was sitting in a blind on San Francisco Bay and three drake canvasbacks flew past. I grabbed my M1 Super 90 and the trigger group fell in my lap. The fiddly little clip on the retaining pin had disappeared.

Let's tell it like it is.

Nothing 'disappeared'. You lost the clip last time you had the trigger plate out and didn't check that the pin was held captive when you reassembled it.

This is not a bug, it's a feature. The design was adpopted from a military shotgun that can be disassembled without tools (not even a Leatherman).

The business about the gun not being in battery and 'messing up more hunts than I care to admit to' says more about the operator than the gun. I have to contrive an out of battery situation and it's difficult to concieve this happening accidentally even once. As far as sitting the loaded gun down hard enough to have it open, well, I'm glad I don't share a blind with you.

It's pretty clear we do not have a commonality of experience. I consider the Benelli a brilliant piece of work and regularly use both of mine with complete satisfaction.


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No. It’s a piece of over priced junk. That’s what it is. I’m glad I don’t share a blind with you either. Any rabid fanboy that thinks the Benelli is brilliant is a joke.

There, I told it like it is. Enjoy your Benellis.

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Originally Posted by Shotgunjones
Originally Posted by LGF
A few years ago I was sitting in a blind on San Francisco Bay and three drake canvasbacks flew past. I grabbed my M1 Super 90 and the trigger group fell in my lap. The fiddly little clip on the retaining pin had disappeared.

Let's tell it like it is.

Nothing 'disappeared'. You lost the clip last time you had the trigger plate out and didn't check that the pin was held captive when you reassembled it.

This is not a bug, it's a feature. The design was adpopted from a military shotgun that can be disassembled without tools (not even a Leatherman).

The business about the gun not being in battery and 'messing up more hunts than I care to admit to' says more about the operator than the gun. I have to contrive an out of battery situation and it's difficult to concieve this happening accidentally even once. As far as sitting the loaded gun down hard enough to have it open, well, I'm glad I don't share a blind with you.

It's pretty clear we do not have a commonality of experience. I consider the Benelli a brilliant piece of work and regularly use both of mine with complete satisfaction.

It’s okay, even though your idea of brilliance is lacking I’d still share a blind with you. Just keep that Italian trash away from my Greener.


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Benelli is the most over priced shotgun on the market IMO. Ever seen a 828U ? Yuck
I bought into the hype and bought an M2, ok gun, but kicked to much, I prefer a gas gun.
I own several Browning O/U's and a Miroku MK38, never had a problem so far, great guns for the price you pay.
Will they ever need work/repair ? probably, just like ANY other gun you can buy.

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I’ve had great o/u shotguns from Browning, Beretta, Merkel and Perazzi. My Berettas have easily been the most trouble free. I do currently have a Miroku 20 ga High Pheasant with 32” barrels and tight fixed chokes. It is one of the best handling and most beautiful guns I’ve ever owned! Bought, of course, from BSA.

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The Miroku guns have more “class” about them compared to the Brownings. They just look better, plus they come with fixed chokes.

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