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Lloyd3 #615243 05/28/22 02:08 PM
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If a price is unreasonable then the gun just sits. I'm guessing that poly-choked M12 16 will be available for a long time on GI. Ed Good makes a fairly pragmatic point here(!), seasonal changes and supply & demand will cause many markets to oscillate (including old guns). There is also the theory of market saturation (as most older hunters already have too-many guns) and then...evolving use (fewer young hunters coming-on to buy these great old tools, combined with diminishing opportunities to hunt). I'm fine-tuning my present battery of guns at, shall-we-say... the maturation-end of my hunting career. I might get to play for a long time now or it might be abbreviated by some malady (most-likely health-related, but political or even economic conditions could screw things up as well). My crystal ball just doesn't work all that well anymore so... I'm just feeling my way through this. A good problem to have, right? Assuming everything continues onward in a fairly steady-state in this country of ours, then the tools of my little hunting hobby/lifestyle should serve me well into my dotage. A long-term continuation of this ammunition shortage we're presently experiencing, however, or something like the lead-ban in the United Kingdom happening here could really wreck the program. (I'm sure I'm over-thinking this.)

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Don’t over think it.
Values ballooned because of inflation and the baby boomers.

Now they are at the end of the accumulation phase of their lives.

Enjoy what you want, and if you pay too much, who g.a.s.

There isn’t anybody or anything coming up the tube that will change the economics of the demographics..


Out there doing it best I can.
Lloyd3 #615248 05/28/22 04:08 PM
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See? CZ is right, endless navel-gazing is pointless. Analysis paralysis when nobody really g.a.s.

Demography is destiny, after all.

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Lloyd, Would you deny yourself the pleasure of ownership of some thing because you felt it was $100 too expensive?

I just spent 100 bucks putting gas in my truck and putting gas in the lawnmower. It’ll all be gone by tomorrow.

People quibble about the wrong stuff.

I will never be desperately trying to recapture my firearms investment while preparing my deathbed.

Buy what you like and enjoy it.

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Lloyd3 #615254 05/28/22 06:10 PM
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zapper, you da man...


keep it simple and keep it safe...
Lloyd3 #615283 05/29/22 02:54 PM
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My real challenge is balancing the love of the beautiful with an innate need for the practical. It's fine to admire an old (historic!) and beautifully-wrought firearm specimen but I'm finding it hard to turn loose of long-held tools of impeccable utility. I'm also finding the fluidity of the overall sporting goods markets to be somewhat impaired these days. The free-wheeling markets of the even recent-past seem to be almost non-existent at the moment. "The times, they are a chang'en"...and not for the better IMHO.

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About 3 times its real market value, I should think. I will Never buy any Model 12 with a choke device, even if was done at the factory. Never- RWTF


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Lloyd3 #615307 05/30/22 12:56 AM
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foxie, an ah bet you don smoke an you don chew...an you don run aroun wid goils dat do...


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Well, you are right abou the first two, Edmundo. Dead right!! RWTF


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