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Well Stan kinda like dumping Audrey Hepburn to go to the dance with Hillary Clinton....

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You fail to see the goal, mc. It's not to own the prettiest .410 made, or the finest finished, or that it be English. It's about functionality. What would be the point in taking Audrey Hepburn to a dance if she didn't know how? Looks don't knock doves out of the sky.


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To my observation about this Morris gun, my thoughts about it--tongue in cheek somewhat--- is that if one were to Google search for the English gun trade term "tarted up" a photo of this gun would appear.

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Wow we must be looking at two different guns the Morris I looked at was just a great looking English gun

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My .410 “Rottweil” (made in Italy, possibly by F.A.I.R. - Isidore Rizzini - anyone know for certain?) is built on a 28-bore frame,

An over and under, weighing about 6 1/2 lb. With 30” barrels it probably enjoys similar dynamics to the Poli, but I accept is not in the same class.

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Originally Posted by bushveld
To my observation about this Morris gun, my thoughts about it--tongue in cheek somewhat--- is that if one were to Google search for the English gun trade term "tarted up" a photo of this gun would appear.

Stephen Howell

It may be Stephen. I'm no authority on Morris guns. But, if so, it is very well done, except for the pad. Overpriced by a couple K, IMO.


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Originally Posted by mc
Wow we must be looking at two different guns the Morris I looked at was just a great looking English gun


What we have here is failure .......to communicate. Let me try one last time.

1) It is a gorgeous gun.
2) Nothing wrong with pretty English guns
3) I'm more interested in it's shootability than it's looks.
4) I will never be able to shoot a 4 1/2 lb. gun as well as I can a 6 1/2 lb. gun.
5) The Morris is a 4 1/2 lb. gun, not a 6 1/2 lb. gun.


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Given that the engraving is original (Morris was primarily an engraver) “tarted up” is not the right description.

“Refinished to a high standard” - yes.

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