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It's generally suggested that steel shot is manageable in a gun with barrels NOT made for steel with chokes opened at least to modified. However, I think that is generally referring to 12 gauge.
What is the collective wisdom here regarding safe choke dimensions for steel in a 16 gauge barrel. Modified still, or should it be more open? My concern at this point is strictly barrel bulge. Also not concerned at this point with pressure or recoil issues. Simply likelihood of barrel bulge.
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James: I would look first to the overall build of the gun. Some 16s can be pretty substantial, while others are fairly dainty. A heavier build would more-likely tolerate the steel shot IMHO, much like a standard 12 bore would with modified chokes. I suspect it boils down to barrel wall thickness as much as anything.
I does, however, beg the next question... why shoot steel in a 16?
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James, Buy a different gun to shoot steel in. Or, find an alternative to steel. Steel, being what it is, is less forgiving at both ends, and 12 gauge perhaps should be considered the minimum gauge for use of same. My opinion. But, it isn’t plainly wrong.
Best, Ted
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LOL, Ted, Lloyd. Its not my gun. I don't shoot steel. However I know this guy well, know that one day, when not properly prepared, he will send steel down the barrels and want to be able to advise him on a set up that minimizes (doesn't eliminate) the likelihood of a bulge. Not everyone cares as much as we do. LOL
Lloyd the gun is a Belgian made 16 gauge 6 pound 10 oz ejector with plenty of barrel wall thickness. It's got a 14" LOP to a pad and the stock is in fantastic condition. It's a good, solid post 1925 vintage SxS. 2 3/4" chambers. Its currently choked Mod and Mod (.020 approx).
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If it is that nice of a shotgun, I wouldn't go near it with factory loaded steel shot. I keep a CZ 20ga Bobwhite around to shoot steel if I need something to shoot high volume steel. My nice hunting guns get ITX-10 or Bismuth. There are plenty of cheap shotguns out there if you have to shoot steel.
After the first shot the rest are just noise.
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generally speakin, if it was made before the late eighties, the barrel steel is too soft for hard steel shot...gauge is not a factor...
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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James,
You just said the magic words-“It’s not my gun”.
Party on, Garth.
Best, Ted
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if it was made before the late eighties, the barrel steel is too soft for hard steel shot... I guess someone forgot to tell the guys at companies like Remington and Miroku/Browning. I have their guns from the 60s and 70s and they are quite happy shooting steel.
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And I have a Stevens 311 from 1962 that digests steel quite nicely.
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keep it simple and keep it safe...
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