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Some of the dog chews looked like very young water buffalo, but others were more like Gauer(?), also a different species of buffalo. The mature buffalo in Viet Nam had horns several feet long. I brought a pair back that were a couple feet long, but considered them small.
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Der Ami .There is the very sad truth about Dairy farming. Male calf's are of no real value and a cost to feed when their mothers start milking again, their fate is sealed with just a few going on for meat production and the majority go for slaughter even then their carcasses are of very little value. Maybe ext time you pour some Milk you will at least know a little of its true cost.


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Veal Piccata, Veal Parmesan, etc, etc. I love veal dishes. I think of them not as an expense to dairy farmers, but an unrecognized dividend of the industry. I wonder how come veal dishes are not sold at a discount to hungry consumers like myself?...Geo

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Well George I am sure you have come across the saying the British are a race of animal lovers and as far as it goes Veal meat is produced in a way that is anathema to most Brits. Keeping a calf in a crate so small that the animal can not move around or sit down and feed it on milk that is used to produce the palest veal does not go down well with the majority of the Brit public and a lot of Dairy farmers who are of the opinion it is not good animal husbandry. So veal crates are now band here in the UK. The industry have tried to sell a type of Veal called rosy or pink using slightly larger crates that allow a little movement of the animal, Brits with a modicum of intelligence can work out the difference between bad husbandry and cruelty so veal is not welcome in many of the shops having sales with the trajectory of a lead balloon. You can still purchase it if you want it with some effort though it will be produced in Europe where they have a lower regard for animal welfare. I am not a veterinarian though Veal is not a thing I would eat at all, even a captive bolt in the brain is a far kinder thing to life in a small crate that is so inhumane in my personal view. But it is a large world and one mans food is another mans poison so if people wish to eat Veal who am I to complain.


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While I enjoy veal dishes, I abhor the method the calves are handled to produce it. Likewise, I like goose liver pate but think the force feeding is cruel. I love a hotdog at a ball game but would probably never eat another one if I visited a factory. I'd like to see the veal industry better regulated from a humane point of view and I think the Pate de Foie Gras production has already been regulated. As for hotdogs and sausage we're probably stuck with what we have. Mr. Damascus, I appreciate you're sharing the British background on the subject...Geo

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Hmmm, haven't had a good osso buco in while. With a long slow braise, who knows, might turn free range calves into a chewy delicacy.

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My Sicilian grandmother has been gone a long while now but her veal parm was to die for.


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Originally Posted by keith
Fred, while looking at those Ebay offerings of water buffalo horn, one of them looked as if the section of horn was hollow. If you decide to buy any of these for your dog, could you please let us know if they are indeed hollow, or if there is enough solid material that they might be suitable for things like buffalo horn forearm tips or buttplates? They seem pretty reasonably priced compared to blocks of horn that I've seen for sale. Thanks.


Hi Keith

I plan to buy some of those ebay horns, and will let you know. With regard to the horn blocks, while they aren't cheap, they aren't that bad either
when you consider that if you buy a piece of horn, you will have to shape it into a block and that will take some time. And you may find that it has problems.
That being said, a friend mentioned that " Howe would glue round horn plugs in the sling swivel area, then drill them and install swivel into the horn. The horn is much tougher than walnut and once screwed in it’s like there welded." So I would like to have some horn cheaply enough that I could try this.


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