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#606133 11/13/21 07:11 AM
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I can not find data for a 16 gauge reload that will crimp right.
All of the published data I have tried does not fill the hull completely.
Every load I have tried is sunken in the middle sometimes spilling shot.
I do not want to add filler (spent primers, puffed wheat etc.). Do any of you guys have a recipie that results in a nice cleanly crimped hull?
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16 gauge reloading is a challenge. But at least--other than a really good hull--there are better components out there. Especially wads for loads lighter than 1 ounce. Used to be we had to use filler.

There is a 16ga reloaders group with a lot of data.

I have reliable 7/8 oz recipes using the black Rem hull with Unique powder and the Claybuster wad, as well as Herters hulls, 20/28 powder, and the DR-16 wad (although those wads are hard to find currently).

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Have you tried www.16ga.com?


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There are lots of published loads that are simply bad recipes. Many couple undersized wads with large capacity hulls. For example the Remington and old Winchester compression formed hulls work best with wads with a smaller diameter (Remington, Winchester/Claybuster). The larger capacity hulls like Federal, Cheddite/Herter's, Fiocchi, and non-compression formed Winchesters (which are Cheddite hulls) work best with larger diameter wads like the Gualandi/SG16, Z16 (B&P), and Cheddite wads.

If you post your load I can pretty much tell you what's going on.

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There is a spreadsheet of 16 gauge loads on 24HrCampfire website that originated from the Yahoo 16 gauge users group.
Bulky powders and Guilandi SG-16 wad are your friend in Cheddite or Federal hulls, if you want to avoid fillers.
If you are like me, and cannot always get the ideal wad or powder, or just want to use what you have - cut 5/8 diameter styrofoam wads from meat trays to put in the shot cup, under the shot.

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Thanks for the replies.
The load I am using now is.. 2 3/4" Cheddite hull
209 Cheddite primer
19.9 gr. Hodgdon Universal Clays
Claybuster CB0078-16 wad
1 oz. lead shot
I had been using the Claybuster CB0100-16 wad that is called for in a 1 oz. load, but the crimps were unusable,
they were sunken in and the shot was running out. The wad I'm using now, Claybuster CB0078-16 is supposed to be used in 7/8 oz. loads,
but it makes the 1 oz. loads usable, but far from perfect. ( the CB0078-16 wad has a little nub in the bottom of the shot cup)
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Originally Posted by sxsman1
Thanks for the replies.
The load I am using now is.. 2 3/4" Cheddite hull
209 Cheddite primer
19.9 gr. Hodgdon Universal Clays
Claybuster CB0078-16 wad
1 oz. lead shot
I had been using the Claybuster CB0100-16 wad that is called for in a 1 oz. load, but the crimps were unusable,
they were sunken in and the shot was running out. The wad I'm using now, Claybuster CB0078-16 is supposed to be used in 7/8 oz. loads,
but it makes the 1 oz. loads usable, but far from perfect. ( the CB0078-16 wad has a little nub in the bottom of the shot cup)
Pete

The 16 ga. Claybuster wads load best in the small capacity hulls like Remington and old compression-formed Winchesters. With the mismatched diameters you will eventually get powder migration and bloopers. The stack height is also bad as you've learned. I wonder how they come up with these loads.

If you're staying with the Cheddite hulls, I'd pick up the Gualandi (Ballistic Products "Sporting 16") or the B&P wad (Z16 or "Field Commander"). Another wad, the DR-16 (Down Range Wads) make up nice 7/8 oz. loads in a large hull like the Cheddite or Federal. The DR-16's have been tough to get lately.

If you have Remington or old CF Winchesters hulls the Claybuster wads work out fine. I like the CB0078-16 wads in Remington hulls for 7/8 oz. target loads.

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I have used the Gualandi wads with terrible results. But I have never tried the Z16 or field Commander wads, maybe they will solve my problem.
But the loads with the CB0078-16 wads are passable for now. Thank you.

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Have the same problem, I use a small slice of 1/2 inch backer (ethafoam, whatever it is called) rod on top of the shot.


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Problems reloading the 16s are common. I use pop corn (hold the butter and salt) often to fill. I shoot 3/4 oz exclusively in 16 (and most other gauges). I like the Claybuster wads for 7/8. I am told they make wads for 3/4 oz but have never seen them. I use 16 grains of Green Dot. It's a nice load and works well.


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