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Friend of a friend evaluated inherited L.C. Smith 16 Ga double -Ideal Grade with ejectors (S/N FWE107485, mfd 1927)
They identified a hairline crack on one side of the stock, from pistol grip to recoil pad-
First 2 attachments: hairline crack visible on one side.
Last attachment: 2 views of other side of stock (no crack)

Not a gun guy. This shotgun belonged to my grandfather who passed before I was born, and has been in my mother's possession since my father passed >20yr ago.
I've been maintaining it since my father passed, but with no interest in the family it's time to pass it on someone who appreciates it.
The guy who evaluated it said it's 60% and worth around $2K if the stock wasn't cracked.
Don't know if vintage shotguns with flaws are always kept intact, or sometimes "parted out" ie: one with a flawed barrel and one with flawed stock combined(?)
Location: Central NY. Considering a local auction house in Geneva NY for a few other guns.

Appreciate perspective on value with the described flaw, and recommendations for best options to sell and get a fair return.

Thanks for your time!

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Man, where is Beans when he is so desperately needed? Like when Tolly showed up with his LC Smith gun.

To the OP, inside baseball joke for the old timers, best of luck with your gun sale. Someone who actually knows will be along, presently.

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Your friend might ask Dan May to evaluate the crack, which BTW probably looks much worse with the stock removed
Daniel May
Oswego, NY 13126
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Originally Posted by Drew Hause
Your friend might ask Dan May to evaluate the crack, which BTW probably looks much worse with the stock removed
Daniel May
Oswego, NY 13126
315-626-2605
info@classicgunstocks.com
http://www.classicgunstocks.com

Thanks for your reply-
Followed your recommendation and emailed Daniel May this AM. Await his reply.

Assuming able to get an eval by Daniel May, then have to decide whether to sell as-is with his evaluation/estimate for repair, or fix/sell at a higher price that offsets cost of repair by an amount making repair worth it.

Appreciate any expert estimates for unrepaired vs. repaired price ranges?

Also, appreciate opinions on best option to sell (as-is or repaired). ie: buyers may prefer to do the stock repair, or have "their guy" do it?

Thanks for your time.

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I have no idea what that would cost to repair assuming that is an actual crack running the length of the stock, but LC Smiths are more notorious for cracking near the lock plates, and I would assume there are hairline cracks there as well. That said, I had some hairline cracks glued up in one that I owned previously for $100, and that held fine for as long as I owned it. I would look at having someone do an economical repair like that and selling, or just selling as is if you have no interest in keeping it.

For pricing, look at Gunbroker, Gunsinternational, etc. for somewhat inflated list prices and actual historical sales for comps.

If it were me, and I wasn't inclined towards digging in and learning about it, I would probably send to one of the guys who do bigger double gun auctions like Morphy's, Rock Island, etc. and just letting them describe and list it in one of their auctions that is geared towards a double gun audience. I wouldn't list it in a local auction that is going to be geared towards ARs, autoloaders, etc.

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Dan-

Appreciate your recommendation to do comps on Gunbroker, but don't feel qualified to grade/compare this shotgun vs what sold there.
Therefore hope for some general projections for values As-Is and Repaired, just a ballpark idea.
Nearby auction house does "Sportsmen Auctions" that appear to have mainly shotguns/rifles. Expect that shipping to Rock Island/etc isn't cheap.
UPS/Fedex has appropriate box/packaging? No concern safely shipping vintage shotguns undamaged to Rock Island/etc.?

Hoping to hear from classicgunstocks.com -their feedback may provide a good starting point to determine how to sell this shotgun.

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The photos you have are not that clear...is the suspected crack on both sides ?

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Originally Posted by HomelessjOe
The photos you have are not that clear...is the suspected crack on both sides ?

Suspected crack only on one side -
Hairline crack = difficult to show in pic -it's from bottom left to top right corner in following pic:

https://imgur.com/mpXBaX7

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Post this on the LC Collectors web site or if you are a member on their for sale forum.

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The LCSCA general discussion forum does not allow inquiries regarding guns that are for sale
https://members.boardhost.com/lcsmith/

But yes, the Member Only Forum has a (free) For Sale section
https://lcsca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=31&club_id=43784&action=login&sl=

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