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since when is asking questions and posting opinions a con?


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I also believe Randy Wakeman is a dipshit. Have You read any of his scribelings? He is a gun writer who will pimp any crap that someone pays for. What Law enforcement agency would allow him to consult ? Ed Send him a couple of bucks and he will tout torched colored gun actions.

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The American gun companies at the turn of the century touted their composite steel guns could handle any of the new nitro powders. Sherman Bell's work also shows this to be true. I don't load low pressure smokelss because I think the barrels might come apart if I don't, I load low pressure to save the wood and the recoil is easy on my old shoulders. Pressure is pressure no matter how you slice it. Get a wall thickness gauge and be smart about it. Everything in life is a risk. Just learn to deal with it!


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well, what about what wakefield says about scale?


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12bore: do you have a barrel wall thickness gauge? if so, pls share with us the thicknesses you consider safe for twist barrels...


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Depends on the gun. Each gun is evaluated on a case by case basis.


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keith, included in this old thread is a post by petem, in which he shows us a barrel drawing from 1891 that gives us some valuable data re suggested barrel wall thicknesses for twist type barrels...maybe there are more examples of pete's research that are waiting for discovery...


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since when is asking questions and posting opinions a con?

It has more to do with motive.

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Cuzin John one could see motive in your reply.

I shot black and smokeless out of my Damascus guns one thing I did notice was a different feel or ring in the barrels with smokeless powder.

I also moved on from antique guns....if I had a do over I'd only shoot proper black powder looking back I think smokeless powder is too hard on old Damascus guns.....reguardless of pressure. .

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Originally Posted by Ted Schefelbein
Originally Posted by L. Brown
I thought that the "Damascus Roulette" group had disappeared. Sherman Bell's articles, along with Doc Drew's posts here, pretty much answer that question.

I was never a Damascus guy, Larry, but, I have moved on from being an old gun guy. Once you get to about the 1920s in age, the quality of steel used goes up logarithmically, and old wood is often nobodies friend. I don’t want to be the guy holding the bag on a stocked to the fences turn of the last century gun that needs a restock, or rebarrel.

Some Damascus ages better than others.

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Ted, I think you took a bit of a diversion from the subject at hand. You're basically questioning whether we ought to shoot guns with Damascus barrels--or even century old guns with fluid steel barrels--with any loads. Most people who do so aren't likely to be using the heaviest and fastest modern shotshells in those guns. That's a personal call. You choose not to make it and provide your reasons for making that choice. Others go the other way and manage to avoid catastrophic failures.

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