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Hey Bob, that Heiser satchel case is pretty nice. Not very common.

Here's a pretty neat gun case I have.

I got the gun without a case about 8 years ago.

The gun is a H & H 12 gauge hammer gun with straight grip and 30 inch nitro steel barrels. Gun is serial numbered 21796.

I got the empty case a couple years ago here in the classified's. And luckily, made for a H&H straight grip hammer gun with 30 inch barrels. Case is for gun serial numbered earlier, 10501.

Perfect fit and they look great together.

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Originally Posted by bushveld
Damascus and Lond;

You gentlemen gave me enough information to search the web and find the story of this horse racing and lovers scandal (if indeed, this is the "Victorian scandal you speak of). You cannot make such an episode up even if you were a Hemmingway or a Tennessee Williams.

I do not know how many USA dollars today would be equal to the loss of UK Pounds 100,000 at a horse race in that day, but it would be millions.

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And Stephen this is why it's not good for your parents to be brother and sister.

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Lond you are quite correct I was talking about the guns owner Henry Chaplin as he was then. I did a lot of research about the 1867 Derby held on May 22nd in a large hail storm, with the odds of 1000 to fifteen approximately 66 to 1 against Hermit winning which he did. As far as can be ascertained the betting was as follows :- Hastings £120.000 against hermit winning today about three Million. Henry Chaplin bet for the hermit to win £100 . 000 today about 2 . 85 Million. I found not all of the information was on the net I had to search a lot of newspapers and archives here and abroad. I have posted some pictures of the main characters in the saga and Hermit. At the start of my research I was set very much against against Hastings but then softened because of that very old quote "all is fair in love and war" and his final words before he died "Hermit broke my heart but I did not let it show did I?"

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I think those trousers where a fashion item in the 1850 s, also the newspaper photos are rather poor I did not realized until after I posted please put it down to eye site problem. I do wish this site would get with the current times and do its own image hosting.


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My Purdey double case is way too heavy to be practical and was made for a pair of his and her 28" guns. It is a very elegant case, and in high condition. I purchased this case, which held a pair of new Model 21s, 12 and 20, for $1000 in 1965. I thought it was a reasonable buy, even in 1965. The seller placed an ad in the Washington Post classifieds, and my dad and I drove about 20 miles to look at the guns. We had them home about three hours after we read the ad. I guess this is my favorite case.

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I like cases and holsters made be Heiser in CO. hands down top shelf goods-from another era.


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A most curious mahogany case, full of original accessories. The top gun is a Joseph Manton with it's original barrels. The lower gun is by John Krider, made to fit the Manton barrels. It is difficult to figure out why two sets of stocks and receivers and one set of barrels which perfectly fit each receiver. The case contained Krider sourced accessories including a powder flask marked with the name of a Mr. Duncan and dated in the late 1870s as I recall. The case is also marked in brass with Mr. Duncan's name.

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Daryl,
It’s pretty obvious Mr. Krider knew what he was doing! Wow. It’s probably sacrilege to say this….but I prefer the Krider work to the Manton work on this gun! 😳. What a fantastic gun.

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Me too, Dustin. The hammers are more elegant, the lock plate follows form of the panel beneath, rather than vice versa, the wrist checkering is finely done (I'd like to see all of it!), and the shape of the trigger guard is also much more elegant, IMHO.


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The Manton stock and lock is very nice for its time, but the Krider addition is near new condition, even at near 150 years old.

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