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gunmaker #602795 09/13/21 02:01 PM
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Looks like a nice greener and it's a very late greener I think webley took over in 64 I have three old greeners one a 1878or 79 a&d box lock one 1886 a&d and a 78 hammer gun mine are not in great shape but they are interesting.

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Thanks for that, Gunmaker and LeFusil. That is how I use it but still wish the button was a bit higher and easier to flip.

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Originally Posted by gunmaker
Interesting gun. Lighter than most Empires I’ve run across.

Yes, and the action flat does not look as long as the earlier Empires as well.

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Originally Posted by bushveld
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Interesting gun. Lighter than most Empires I’ve run across.

Yes, and the action flat does not look as long as the earlier Empires as well.


I believe it’s only a “Greener” in name only. It was more than likely built, finished or completed by Webley & Scott. It differed from the usual W&S action in use at the time, lacking the cocking limb pins on the side of the action, but it does look different from the standard Empire action too. Especially where the breech pin is bored on the top strap and length of action flats. The old rumor was any of the later Greener Empires with top safety were W&S built guns. Side safety they were built by Greeners, but could’ve been finished by W&S after the acquisition.

W&S purchased the Greener name, etc around 1965 I think. There were probably a lot of unfinished guns laying around the Greener works during that time that W&S eventually finished off. I could be wrong. It’s been a long time since I read Grahams book.

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Originally Posted by lonesome roads
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Only when I was carrying a rifle for them...Geo

Figure in state and local about half the year.


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Originally Posted by lonesome roads
Originally Posted by Geo. Newbern
Only when I was carrying a rifle for them...Geo

Figure in state and local about half the year.


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That seaside tunnel looks like the one from the opening car chase from Quantum of Solace, the Best part of the movie.


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Originally Posted by LeFusil
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Interesting gun. Lighter than most Empires I’ve run across.

Yes, and the action flat does not look as long as the earlier Empires as well.


I believe it’s only a “Greener” in name only. It was more than likely built, finished or completed by Webley & Scott. It differed from the usual W&S action in use at the time, lacking the cocking limb pins on the side of the action, but it does look different from the standard Empire action too. Especially where the breech pin is bored on the top strap and length of action flats. The old rumor was any of the later Greener Empires with top safety were W&S built guns. Side safety they were built by Greeners, but could’ve been finished by W&S after the acquisition.

W&S purchased the Greener name, etc around 1965 I think. There were probably a lot of unfinished guns laying around the Greener works during that time that W&S eventually finished off. I could be wrong. It’s been a long time since I read Grahams book.

I believe you are correct and my comment about it looked to good to be true--was indicative of caution to be exercised. It may be as much as 3/8" shorter than the original Empire actions--maybe more.

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