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If true...."MANY" from the factory with weep holes...that is news to me.

Are you talking about Crescent quality guns? Maybe I've been living in Lefever land too long, so Im only used to guns made properly. Sneider certainly didn't either, nor Syracuse, to my kmowledge.

I'm quite curious...please tell WHICH makers of FINE American doubles sent guns out the door with weep holes in the rib...as ORIGINALLY constructed?

Again, not doubles sold in hardware stores meant to be laid in the dirt while one weeded the garden. I mean fine guns.

It's my understanding -- and PLEASE correct me -- that the very reason you need this hole is because you are refinishing a barrel set which is already struck. There would be no need for this when the barrels were originally made, as they'd have been rough finished BEFORE they were struck. So why would they ever need a weep hole when originally made?

If you know better, please explain. Im not a gunsmith...i just collect them.

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Beautiful gun. Patina on the case colors looks right but that trigger guard has been re-blued.

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Also notice some of the finish on the forearm has run over onto the forend iron. I agree, a beautiful gun but most metal and all the wood is refinished. And as mentioned earlier, the screws aren’t right.


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I do love that checkering pattern. That would be a nice one to replicate on a custom stocked S X S.


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L.C. Smiths are found with weep holes, but most (unmodified) barrels do not have them

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A No. 3 that has the "barrel loop support reinforcing wedge"

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Never saw another higher grade Remington with blue screws. I have owned EE and DE Remingtons and the screws are color case hardened. I have many pictures of the Remingtons in high grade, and none of those pictures show blued screws.

Dave's notation of the gun in Bonham's auction seems to tell the truth.

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Model 21’s will have plugged weep holes from the factory. Many LC’s have weep holes from the factory, I’ve owned 3, original field grades that did. I’ve also owned Ithaca NID’s that were drilled from the factory. Some Lefevers that were assembled by Ithaca are also found to have weep holes.
I’ve seen factory original LC’s with weep holes in different areas. Usually found right after the loop, some later LC’s might have had the weep hole in the reinforcing rib, and were plugged with a small screw. I have only seen guns with fluid steel barrels with these weep holes, I just haven’t had my hands on enough Damascus examples from each maker to have an opinion regarding those barrels.

I can only assume that the reason for the weep holes was that in a mass production process as most American guns were manufactured…the solder joints weren’t always 100% flawless, so when the barrels got boiled/steamed during whatever blacking process that company used, moisture was present between the ribs and these sets were drilled and oiled during the QC process. This would sort of explain why some are and some aren’t found with the weep holes.


Btw…..there are a few informative post from this forum over the years discussing weep holes found on various types and makes of guns, whether they are factory original or not, etc.

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I view the barrels as having ejectors, hence a 3E-Drewbie.. RWTF


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I've got a 32" A grade A H Fox right now that I bought from Jay many, many years ago ......... before he named his gun business. The price was very fair and it was a good transaction.

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Beautiful gun.


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