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Interesting comments generated by this thread. A locking system... necessary or not, I think is another interesting thread!

PD: There must be a lot of information in this forum about it, I supose.


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Originally Posted by ellenbr
Always superb info here:

http://www.hallowellco.com/concealed_third_fastener.htm

Now you didn't post an image of the breech so I assume it is the longer Greener(circular) extension

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Iv got this kind of nose protruding from the barrels on a 112 Bernardelli....it fits into a corresponding channel in the breech face....but has no locking mechanism to add to the double purdey unerbites to lock the action closed....more or less just to reduce any side to side movement...??...like sideclips..?

Also have a Sarasqueta with the same nose....but it also has a bar that locks on its top when the action is closed did bernardelli just cheap out on this....??..

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I'd say so.... Can you pleasure us with a pic sometime?


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That „Fermeture Liègeoise“, or similar, crops up from time to time on ware retailed by J. Novotný, retailer of the House of 1000 guns.

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Maybe I should make just a >>Nose<< thread?

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Originally Posted by gunut
Originally Posted by ellenbr
Always superb info here:

http://www.hallowellco.com/concealed_third_fastener.htm

Now you didn't post an image of the breech so I assume it is the longer Greener(circular) extension

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Iv got this kind of nose protruding from the barrels on a 112 Bernardelli....it fits into a corresponding channel in the breech face....but has no locking mechanism to add to the double purdey unerbites to lock the action closed....more or less just to reduce any side to side movement...??...like sideclips..?

Also have a Sarasqueta with the same nose....but it also has a bar that locks on its top when the action is closed did bernardelli just cheap out on this....??..

Maybe they forgot to put the bolt in (Friday gun, Monday gun, too much Ouzo gun) when it was assembled? Might be good to have a look at the works and see if it was fitted for a bolt like that.

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I guess I should have paired the „Fermeture Liègeoise“ - >>Galand Nose<< with the locking bar in the Standing Breech??


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I wish the cross bolts on my Merkel side by sides were hidden in this fashion. They protrude and man are they sharp. One bloody right earlobe quickly teaches you to carry broken over the left shoulder instead of the right!

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Beautiful gun, Raimey.

May be the answer of my question is in The British Boxlock Gun & Rifle, by Diggory Hadoke. He wrote about this:

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Could be, could be. Great find.

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My Greener Imperial has a hidden crossbolt utilizing a plug held in place by a screw/pin on the breach face.


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