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Lloyd3 #599591 07/14/21 09:24 AM
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I'm surprised this thread has turned into a farmer bashing fest. American farmers are pretty regulated as far as I can see. There is a limit to how much habitat preservation can go on and still run a farming business. I don't really see the feed the world argument as justifying environmental abuse because our farmers are so good now that hungry people aren't in the picture and profit lies in the above the rim surpluses produced, but I do believe agricultural regulation keeps things at a safe level...Geo

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Originally Posted by Geo. Newbern
I'm surprised this thread has turned into a farmer bashing fest. American farmers are pretty regulated as far as I can see. There is a limit to how much habitat preservation can go on and still run a farming business. I don't really see the feed the world argument as justifying environmental abuse because our farmers are so good now that hungry people aren't in the picture and profit lies in the above the rim surpluses produced, but I do believe agricultural regulation keeps things at a safe level...Geo

George I bet you still believe in the Easter Bunny.

We have the urge to hunt but there is nothing left to hunt but squirrels, deer and few turkeys around here.

This is not a "farmer bash" it's a Farming practice bash....something no one wants to take on.

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If it helps, hoJo I am still P.O. about the quail/insecticide connection...Geo

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Originally Posted by HomelessjOe
This is not a "farmer bash" it's a Farming practice bash...

Great example of "it's better to be thought of as an idiot than to type stupid sh it on the internet and remove all doubt". Lmao...
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Originally Posted by Geo. Newbern
If it helps, hoJo I am still P.O. about the quail/insecticide connection...Geo

If it helps, George, it's better to be pissed off than to be pissed on.
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I am lucky enough to be able to hunt a very large produce farmers farms. They use alot of chemicals. They have gotten into predator hunting and have always done scheduled burns. The quail have good cover. I have always been surrounded by quail no matter where I set up to turkey hunt. More so the past 5 years. Our hunting club for deer and ducks is turning out to be the same way. The population is booming from the young guys predator hunting. The urge to hunt I think is just experiencing something new and being able to harvest. It's primal and we should all stick together to preserve it. Teach the new and young folks and learn from the experienced.

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I would seem that nothing in this world is very simple anymore. The tendrils of administrative control have crept into just about every aspect of our lives. This thread certainly wasn't started to bash farmers or anyone else but it has exposed the level of difficulty everybody now seems to face in order to farm or even hunt (or just about any other pursuit, frivolous or otherwise). Purely by accident, we've been watching "Clarkson's Farm" on Amazon lately. Car guy Jeremy Clarkson (late of Top Gear fame on the BBC) has a new series on him running a farm in the Cotswolds' section of Great Briton. The show is largely focused on his famously-irreverent approach to life being a humorous complication to the very serious business of running a large farm. The lesson for me, however, was how egregiously controlled every aspect of his farm is by local and then even national government entities. I was hoping that in the US of A that isn't the case but from what I'm gathering here... is that simply isn't correct. One thing that is very clear (at least to me) is that the margins in farming there (as in here as well, I suspect) are usually very thin, and balanced against all of the inherent risks that come with any farming or ranching enterprise...I'm surprised that so many still do it. Thank God that they do IMHO.

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Originally Posted by John Roberts
Originally Posted by Geo. Newbern
If it helps, hoJo I am still P.O. about the quail/insecticide connection...Geo

If it helps, George, it's better to be pissed off than to be pissed on.
JR

I had thought any educated person would have understood that when I used the term "P.O." above I meant "particularly offended" . But if JR prefers the scatological interpretation, I guess that's just him...Geo

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Originally Posted by Geo. Newbern
Originally Posted by John Roberts
Originally Posted by Geo. Newbern
If it helps, hoJo I am still P.O. about the quail/insecticide connection...Geo

If it helps, George, it's better to be pissed off than to be pissed on.
JR

I had thought any educated person would have understood that when I used the term "P.O." above I meant "particularly offended" . But if JR prefers the scatological interpretation, I guess that's just him...Geo

You would be in the severe minority with that thinking, George. And scatological refers to doo doo, not tee tee. I've been pissed off a lot about many things of late, so I suppose I'm in the same shape.
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Don't feel bad, John. I had no idea P.O. meant "particularly offended", either. Guess we're both uneducated. grin


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