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When I was a kid, my ammunition came mostly from garage sales, where it was cheap, and if they had longs, or, shorts, I happily bought it all, and offered my friends as much as they wanted, which, was always politely declined. I had the only gun, the 552, that shot short, long, or long rifle interchangeably.
The 581 does the same thing, but, I wasn’t a kid when I got it.

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I've got my dad's old Remington Model 41 Targetmaster. It's not a high level target gun, very basic single shot cocked by pulling the knob. It does have a 27" barrel which I find interesting. He gave me my first lesson in sportsmanship when I was about 9 and tagging along on a squirrel hunt. After he shot a couple squirrels high in a tree with the 41 he turned and said, "If you can't shoot the squirrel in the head it deserves to live." Hunting birds with with doubles brings me full circle. Two shots are enough.

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Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
AFA dependability goes, maybe someone is old enough to remember this, I do, ........ in 1959 Tom Frye set a record by shooting 100,004 two and half inch wooden blocks, thrown into the air, with Nylon 66s, out of a total of 100,010 thrown. Only six misses. I can't remember the dependability factor of the rifles used but AIR it was very high. There was a picture published by Remington that showed Tom sitting on the pile of blocks with a 66.

That Remington ad was awesome.
I was just a little kid then, but I remember Tom Frye sitting on the pile of blocks in the stack of older American Rifleman mags given to me by a neighbor.


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Nothing in the world wrong with a Nylon 66. Including it’s looks. I always thought they were space age, cool looking guns…and I saw my first one in the early 80’s. I’ve owned a few too, always enjoyed them. Nope, they aren’t Marlin 39’s, brownings, Winchester 52’s, etc. but I don’t think they were ever meant to be. One thing I noticed about the 66…it will eat up every single brand of .22 out there without a hiccup. I’ve seen some absolutely disgustingly dirty 66’s that just kept plugging away. Brownings won’t do that.
When it comes to firearm practicality….plastics are light years ahead of wood. No need to even argue that.

Agree….white lines look cool & are right at home on a 66.

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You need to take a Nylon 66 apart to really appreciate the thing.

They sold over a million of them, and I'd venture to say that the vast majority of them are still serviceable.

There were some innovations going on at that time, to try to serve the market.

People were not as affluent as now, money was tight. American gun makers have always been hanging by a thread from bankruptcy.

The Remington Nylon guns were a quite a risk to put into production. They sold well.

Winchester tried the alloy frame shotguns about the same time without really understanding that steel was necessary in certain places, something the Italians figured out a couple decades later. They even covered a spiral wound barrel with fiberglass to introduce something new that was strong and light weight.

The point is that design innovations at great risk to the companies involved were happening in the 1960 era.

I'm all for traditional gun making, but this era is part of our history and they did come out with some remarkable designs.


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My Super X 1 came with a white line spacer. It is shown in the exploded view iin the manual and has a part #. It's a very early standard field model with a pacmyr (sp?) Pad. I have recently rediscovered the joy and gratification of shooting it (at targets only)! I also decided it looked a little beat up so I lightly ran a little 0000 over it and the wood cleaned up beautifully (barely touched it!). I cleaned the edge of the spacer while I was changing the buffer. It's only an eighth thick, so I may gaze at it without. The wood and pad are a little proud at the spacer and always have been.
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The Nylon 66 was a perfect tie in with DuPont. Don’t forget that Remington was basically owned by DuPont when the Nylon 66 was made. Just as their bolt action pistol looked like a space age weapon the 66 was a futuristic looking gun. And most likely cheap to make in large numbers once all the molds and methods were perfected.

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Originally Posted by KY Jon
You need to take a Nylon 66 apart to really appreciate the thing.

Did that once, in college. They were having a turkey shoot on Friday to see who could place a bullet closest to the center. It was a .22 rifle shoot ............closest to the bullseye. Well, when I arrived back at the dorm on Sunday evening I decided Dad's rifle had never been stripped and cleaned, and I would do so. The turkey shoot was on the following Friday, so I took her apart. And, cleaned her. Putting her back together proved to be not so easy. There was a spring that was a b---- to get back in place. I worked for several days before getting it in properly. At least, I thought it was "properly".

When Friday came I took it down to the area where the turkey shoot was being held. I learned that you paid your fee, they gave you a cartridge, you shot at a red dime-sized dot, with open sights, at about 25 yards, and waited until 9 more did the same thing. Then, the 10 targets were compared and the winner was chosen, the one with the bullet hole closest to the center of the red dot. I asked if I could have a cartridge to shoot at the ground just to see if the rifle would function, as I hadn't tried it since reassembling it. They said "No". I took my bullet, aimed carefully, and sent it. The range guy walked down and looked with me as he pulled the target, and the hole was dead center ......... a pin wheel. Took a turkey home to Mom that afternoon.

I don't own a Nylon 66 now, but if I ever do I won't take it completely apart, and have to put the spring in again. It's a dog.


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Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
It's a dog.

Woof woof. You'd love the Winchester 74.

The one I almost gave up on is called a Miroku 'Liberty Chief' 38 special snubby.

That was given to me after it's owner was told by his gunsmith that it was out of time and couldn't be fixed.

This turned out to be the only thing ever spoken by a gunsmith that I can vouch for as being completely true.

I tried for days to reassemble the 'lockwork' on that bastard. Several springs, the bolt, and a few other small parts had to be held just so while the sideplate was reinstalled.

Finally got lucky after maybe 100 attempts. It's back to the state I received it in, never to be disassembled again.

Hell of it is, the thing is very accurate... just don't try to double action it.


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