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I have three doubles with automatic safeties and one with manual. I enjoy each of them and rarely have a problem remembering which I'm using. The manual safety is especially nice on a Ruffed Grouse covey where I've fired both barrels and I reload quickly and remount for a third shot. A third shot might happen a couple of times a season, but it's nice to be able to do it quickly.

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Never had a problem using a gun with an automatic safety.

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Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
In NSCA sporting clays competition a shooter is allowed three gun malfunctions, per round of 100, before the scorer is to call a target a lost bird.

Think about it for a minute. If your brain can be trained to push the safety off when needed, it can just as easily be trained to put it back on safe after the shot. It can also be trained to keep the trigger finger outside the triggerguard, resting alongside the bow, until the second before the shot. And, that is a proper safety, IMO.
[quote=Stanton Hillis]In NSCA sporting clays competition a shooter is allowed three gun malfunctions, per round of 100, before the scorer is to call a target a lost bird.

Yep.
I have always gone on-safe with ARs and 1911s after the shot or reload; I do the same with break-open guns.
If not in the act of firing, safety “on”. I’m hardwired to it and it’s automatic.


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I recently purchased a Rizzini RB 28 bore and was surprised to see it had a non automatic safety. I was told by a guy at the club that is common on most O/U. Really?


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Mike, my two Browning Citori OUs and my Winchester 101 have manual safeties.
I think Beretta OUs generally have auto safeties.


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Originally Posted by Tom Findrick
Mike, my two Browning Citori OUs and my Winchester 101 have manual safeties.
I think Beretta OUs generally have auto safeties.

Beretta O/U field guns have auto safeties.

Beretta O/U target guns have manual safeties.

The 680 series guns at least are convertible either way. The factory parts kit is the best way to do it.


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Personally I find that kind of un-safe not being automatic. I have shot this little 28 bore at clays. I have no problem engaging the safety when I need to pull the trigger. I always heard from the sporting crowd that automatic safety was an issue as they made them miss a few target at the stand.
Years ago I was shooting my brother's Perazzi and when I was finished I put the safety back on. At the next station he did not check it and and was slow getting on the target. Boy did I get a mouth full!


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The Shooting Sportsman, July-August issue arrived today. Ralph Stuart let himself be roped into making some ridiculous statements about automatic safeties after even more ridiculous statements were made by a letter writer who seems to be addressing readers who fired their first shots yesterday.

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"Kind of unsafe being not being automatic"? How many tens of millions of repeating shotguns are "kind of unsafe"? Maybe more than a few of us just fired our first shots yesterday. I would prefer that shooters familiarize themselves with the safety device on the gun in hand. There being at least ten different safety devices available to us, what would be our excuse to not be comfortable operating the device on our gun being used that day?

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Aldo Leopold ordered his double with no safety at all. Maybe because he knew how guns work and did not trust any safety.

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