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There are a ton of post WW-II Merkel's, Sauer's, Simson, Husqvarna's, BRNO's coming out of Europe right now that are quite reasonable. Many are in questionable condition but there are some very serviceable ones to be had. Most are 28" = or- and choked Full and Tighter Yet, but that's not a problem. I picked up a pair of Hungarian FEG's w/ejector for under $500 for the pair and are very reliable.


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Pre 1966 Superposed, K-32, Miroku, all available in 30", all available under $1500. These three would be my choices. My 30" K-32 cost me $775, my 32" Miroku cost me $1000, I only buy minty Superposed, so they are a bit higher.

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There is a Lames Spa 801 O/U trap for sale on gunbroker no reserve open offer 475.These were imported from Italy ,I believe maker was P Faverzani 30 inch tubes F/IM

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Originally Posted by pipeliner
There is a Lames Spa 801 O/U trap for sale on gunbroker no reserve open offer 475.These were imported from Italy ,I believe maker was P Faverzani 30 inch tubes F/IM

I very briefly owned a Lames O/U in the late 1970s. Bought it at a Woolco, of all places. I think I paid $150 for
It at the time. It was too heavy to hunt with and I quickly swapped it off for something else,’although I can no longer remember what.

It was a pretty nice gun for the money, although not the right tool for the task as I didn’t shoot skeet or trap at the time.

At the price indicated, that would be a pretty good buy.

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The "target gun" is the least expensive component in the competition arena. I have 100,000 plus registered ATA targets, many of my fellow shooters claim around $1.00 per target as travel, ammo, day fees and all the supporting costs are added in. In 30 years of shooting I have maybe 5 different trap guns that were used specifically for competition.
If you are just making empty shells at the range it saves a lot of money.

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Originally Posted by AZMike
The "target gun" is the least expensive component in the competition arena.

Amen.

I estimate I've shot at 56K targets with my $2550 MX 8. That's 560 rounds of sporting. $2550 divided by 560 equals $4.55 per round for the gun cost. At an average of $5 per box for shells, and $25 per round for targets, and $45 in mileage costs (to and from) for each round, I've spent roughly $90 per round in other costs besides the gun cost. I'd say that puts the cost of a good target gun into perspective. And no one should be fooled, having a really good target gun makes a difference. JMO,YMMV.


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The very point I was making in my post. Don't buy a hunting gun to shoot lots of targets. Buy a target gun that has had an easy life. K-32, Superposed low mileage, Miroku, also low mileage. My number one choice would be a 682 Beretta, also low mileage.

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He ain't gonna shoot a lot of targets, guys. I mean, dang.
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Originally Posted by John Roberts
He ain't gonna shoot a lot of targets, guys. I mean, dang.
JR

Sometimes, these things snowball, and take on a life of their own. Lloyd is pretty spry, and I could see him shooting 3-5 days a week, if that is what he wants to do. He ain’t gonna’ work, forever.

The disconnect seems to be target gun, and dirt cheap, used in the same sentence. Somebody up there, mentioned a gas gun, like an 1100. That gets you more than one shot, single sighting plane, easy recoil, and, pretty close to dirt cheap. When Lloyd decides to step up to a gun that isn’t dirt cheap, he’ll be ready.

Buy that guy a Blue Ribbon.

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1100s are easy to shoot, less easy to keep shooting. I was given a brand new one on my 16th b'day. I terrorized doves and quail with it at first, then over a few years bought two more barrels for it and used it for ducks and deer, back when we used to run deer with dogs. Then, I began to shoot sporting clays with it. I had learned how to maintain a 1100, but they will sustain just so many rounds, then they are toast, and will need extensive repairs to keep them going. I shot mine at sporting until the magazine tube gave up the ghost and came out of the action. Sent it off to be resoldered, and reblued. Shot it at sporting some more until magazine tube came out again. Had it repaired again and put it in the safe, where it resides ...........retired.

They are fine for occasional rounds of clays, but they will not hold up to really hard use, in my opinion based on my experience. In their favor, they are one of the easiest guns to shoot well that I have ever found. By well, I mean a high percentage of hits to shots fired. But, maybe mine just fit me well enough.

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