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I do indeed, Tom. It's hard for me, sometimes, to convey the meaning behind the words. I understand the spirit in which it was posted, and agree completely.

Blessings on you, SRH


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There was a lengthy article on the 32-gauge/14 mm by James Vance M.D., F.A.C.S. in the September 1933, issue of The American Rifleman. The author had a svelt straight-gripped Lancaster double with 30-inch barrels.
Unfortunately for the 32-gauge, three issues earlier they had the introduction of the Winchester Model 42 and the 3-inch .410-bore shell!!

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supposedly these guys make 14 gauge cases:


https://www.rccbrass.com/product/14-gauge-2/

and somewhere once, i remember someone talking about a removable chamber insert to allow use of 16 ga in the 14 gauge chamber.

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Winchester's Model 59 autoloader was designed as a 14ga gun. Why Winchester ever thought there was a need for another gauge between the 12 and the 16 remains a mystery to me. But every now and then, you'll see a 14ga Model 59. Of interest only to Winchester fans looking to fill a hole in their collection. I seem to recall that the shells were aluminum??

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"I seem to recall that the shells were aluminum??"

The cases were indeed aluminum and are pricey collector's items nowadays. I understood they were the result of an experiment in shell technology by John Olin; but if so, I've no idea as to why he selected a 14-bore as opposed to another gauge? Supposedly only 4-5 experimental Model 59's were made for testing purposes; and if true, I'm certain there's many Winchester collector's still hoping to fill this niche.

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This full box just sold fort $132 at the recently ended Wards Auction --

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Another full box stamped experimental and with a typed label also sold for $132.

Pretty cheap compared to the $22,000 U.M.C. CLUB "Christmas Box".

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The box states / indicates 2 1/8 inch length of shells. Were they really that short or am I missing something?

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I recall a dear departed friend, who grew up poor on the Red River in TX, telling me of using 16 ga. shells in a borrowed 12 ga. gun. He had somehow acquired the 16 ga. shells but knew no one who had a 16 ga. gun he could use, so he wrapped several layers on friction tape on them and shot ducks.

Seems like it would have split the heads, to me.


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Originally Posted by redoak
No point, at least not for me.

But if it were a S x S at 4 pounds I might be interested.

I shot a friend's 4 lb 410 hammer gun. It's like shooting a broomstick. It is not a gun I would enjoy on a regular basis. I have 410s from about 5 1/2 lbs to 6 lbs. I'm comfortable in that weight range.

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