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We are losing waterfowl hunters thanks to the Federal Duck Refuges.....ducks are congregated in Government duck housing projects. There is more than a bit of truth to what you are saying but not for the reason many think. DU has helped so many "restore" places for ducks to rest on the migration where they see little or no hunting pressure. They have it all in one place. Water, food and safety. Worse than that are the corn planted duck clubs which see very little hunting but hold thousand of birds in one place and the birds do not fly anywhere the five days a week they are not hunted. One club I know of has a $100,000 initiation fee and it cost $30,000 a year in fees. They have the ducks, but nobody within several miles ever see any ducks at all.
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Not all the problem is the Federal Refuges. Legalized baiting adjacent to them is what has caused the blame to be placed solely at the refuges' feet. Take a look at this podcast. It's in two parts. In part 2 noted call maker Jeff Foiles speaks. It's worth listening to. He starts speaking at about 7:03 into part 2. https://www.arkansashunting.net/threads/where-are-the-ducks-part-1-2.257024/ SRH
May God bless America and those who defend her.
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Only difference between baiting and legal feeding is the guy who can only afford $7 for a fifty pound bag of shelled corn is baiting illegally whereas the guy who can afford to flood acres of planted corn worth forty K is legal, plus it is OK for him to charge his customers to help him hunt it. Same way hunting laws have always been...Geo
P.S.: If they'ed just allow me a half acre beaver pond and fifty pounds a week I'd be a happy man and promise to quit at 3 woodies every time.
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Too, you have to >>mimic<< a farming practice where you cannot bush-hog it nor run over it w/ a 4 Wheeler. I have had a couple clients get in big trouble doing this. You can open up the harvester & let it fly out the back & that is fine. Semantics.....
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Raimey, you most likely know that even the "mimic" deal is out the window with doves...Geo
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Were we talking about Doves, I wasn't following that close & was on my own tangent as ususal.
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But on the grain, you are supposed to leave 1/4 or 1/3, some set amount, on the Refugee when farming it. Sometimes that is not upheld as no one inspects nor is anyone held accountable.
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["Were we talking about Doves, I wasn't following that close & was on my own tangent as ususal." ellenbr]
Nah the conversation is ducks, but the irrationality of baiting laws is the bottom of it all...Geo
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I thought it more about how the Federal duck refuges have altered the natural migration paths of waterfowl.
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I thought it more about how the Federal duck refuges have altered the natural migration paths of waterfowl. Actually the thread is about the ammo shortage. Little drift never hurt anybody...Geo
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