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Those steel head casings are known for sticking in chambers. They are high pressure to run dirty semi autos. The steel doesn't shrink back like brass. Chamber cleaning and polishing may help if you can't find good shells.

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Originally Posted By: Mark II
Those steel head casings are known for sticking in chambers. They are high pressure to run dirty semi autos. The steel doesn't shrink back like brass. Chamber cleaning and polishing may help if you can't find good shells.


How? I cannot understand how steel shell casings can cause the gun to be hard to open. I know they can cause failures to eject well, but that is not jOe's problem with this gun.

If there's a way, I'm willing to listen and learn.

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I could see it on an extractor gun, but not an ejector gun.

Still betting there will be signs of pin drag on the primers. It would be interesting to know if it is hard to open regardless of which barrel is fired. I'll bet it only happens if the lower barrel is fired.


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Hey Stan.
Does your Verona ever have this problem?
Just sayin'.

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WW universal's have a bad rep around here, WW Super Target have a great rep. Both are in white boxes. Universal or Super target or both?

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I have an Ugartechea 28 gauge that is hard to open with Winchester AA's and the primers show distinct drag marks. I have no trouble opening the gun with any other ammo including the Italian made Herter's and Fiocchi's. When I reloaded I had no trouble with Nobel Sport, Fiocchi, CCI, Federal or Cheddite primers.

At least with my Uggie I believe that the softer metal of the primer is the primary issue. I solved the problem by not shooting Winchester AA's.

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That's odd, FlyChamps. My 28 ga. Verona loves AAs. In fact, that's all I've ever shot in it. I got a great deal on several flats of it awhile back and I'm still using it. I've never tried the white box Winchesters in it. Actually, I don't really shoot the 28 that much.

I have used them in my 20 ga. Beretta 687. They were the Super Targets. Never had an issue with them in that gun.

Stuff like this can be aggravating.

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Originally Posted By: Bob Cash
Hey Stan.
Does your Verona ever have this problem?
Just sayin'.


Been waiting for this. Maybe Stan could loan Frank a Verona.


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Originally Posted By: FlyChamps
I have an Ugartechea 28 gauge that is hard to open with Winchester AA's and the primers show distinct drag marks. I have no trouble opening the gun with any other ammo including the Italian made Herter's and Fiocchi's. When I reloaded I had no trouble with Nobel Sport, Fiocchi, CCI, Federal or Cheddite primers.

At least with my Uggie I believe that the softer metal of the primer is the primary issue. I solved the problem by not shooting Winchester AA's.


I have this problem with only Federal target loads in one of my Cashmores. It is only on the right barrel and inspection of the cases showed drag and inspection of the firing in showed some burrs had developed somehow. A touch of a file and it's no problem, but I don't often use Federal commercial loads.


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I worked as range officer at our club for large group events.Biggest problem with white box Winchesters were with pumps not ejecting. Not a firing pin problem, always thought steel base causing this. Super Targets okay. Winchester using different bases or what? Never miked the rim thickness to see if they were thinner & ejector not catching the rim. Not Joe type of problem.

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