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Use these wads
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/885123693

One bag to see

others to load quantity

https://www.shydasoutdoorcenter.com/shoo...20-ga-1-oz.html

Mike

Hodgdon Shotshell Data Manual #1 page 155
23.5 grains of HS-7
9.400 LUP

MORE

go here and fill in your gauge, hull and 1oz

http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/shotgun


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Use these wads
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/885123693

One bag to see

others to load quantity


The Winchester guide ups the powder charge to 23 grains 540 to get the 1165 fps with the Remington SP20 wad. Slight increase in pressure to 10,000 LUP.

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The RXP-20 wad is what you want Stan.

It works In the new or old style AA or the Remington hulls perfectly with an ounce.

Herco is my preferred, but there's a load published for the AA with 20/28 that could be shaved by a grain and a half and still have adequate pressure and likely be around the velocity you seek.

You have once again confirmed that many 'published' loads are impractical.


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After reviewing what I have on hand it looks like if I can't use Unique or 7625 for these 1 oz. 20 ga. loads I'm out of luck. I've got Slo 1000, 2400, Longshot, 296, Red Dot, Unique and 7625 on hand. Maybe the Remington wads will work, or the BP ones.

I'm going to scour the stores round here for some Remington Heavy Dove game loads. They are 1 oz. at 1165. Just right if I can find some.

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I like the Federal Game loads. - 1 ounce at 1165, when I can find them on sale.

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Back in the day I used to load the WWAA20 hulls with 16.5gr 800x, the WWAA20F1 wad and 1oz of 8's for a great trap load in my 20ga and broke my first 25 straight at trap with that load.


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Originally Posted By: Saskbooknut
I like the Federal Game loads. - 1 ounce at 1165, when I can find them on sale.


Buy one box and pattern them. I have a couple guns that dont like them.

Stan, my 16s and 12s are pretty happy with an ounce. Hit or miss with the 20s.

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Hodgdon lists loads for Longshot and the SP-20.

If you can't find any SP-20s I have an old bag of them here if you want it.

I've used SP-20s too, and they work fine.


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Hogdon presently lists six loads in their current on-line load data using 800X for your hulls that should both fit and function just fine. For the loads listed as producing 1200 fps, you can back it off a bit on the amount of powder or call them to verify that's okeh, if you wish; shouldn't be a problem when all else is kept the same as listed.

You'll see or hear where some folks complain about 800X's flowing characteristics, to which I say both 'bunk' and that they were likely using manually operated progressive presses and had every effort based on absolute speed. If you take a moment, or are using a single stage press like a MEC, the 'flow' issues will be zero.

I'll also mention that 1oz. loads in 20's are much like Ted says, when you go to pattern them, 'hit or miss'.

I've a friend who swears by Hogdon Longshot and there are 7 of the 9 loads listed that meet your criteria as published. He loads on a Spolar that is plenty quick and uses the Remington SP 20 wads w/o issue. Both he & his son took multiple limits of dove using those loads W/# 7.5's during this past season and seasons past. He son routinely uses the same loads in a Beretta gas gun for sporty clays & posts good scores w/them. I've no personal experience w/that powder or using his loads, but have witnessed many a dove bagged and clay broken w/them.

I still prefer shooting 7/8's oz. rounds of #6's in a 20 for dove, quail, cotton-tails & feral pigeons. #7.5~9 for clays & skeet. Don't shoot a 20 at trap, tho some do.

Of course, Joe Wood has seen me miss a flushing bird more than once, that had nothing to do w/payload or shot size whatsoever and can verify that fact. It was because he pointed out that the bead on the model 31's adjustable choke devise I was shooting that day was ever so slightly to the left! I'd been killing birds w/o thot for years prior w/that gun, never once even had a conscious awareness that the darn thing had a bead! Clever, these old guys w/hammer guns; don't get side tracked w/minutia, take the bbl. or bbl.'s to the bird & shoot it!

And I still like seeing what a few patterns look like on a grease plate, but that's just me.. and you and whole lot of other like minded individuals that like to shoot and have a keen interest in shotguns and their voodoo.

Pull!

'Take 'em!'

Very glad to see that you are back up to speed and not bored stupid. Find that load you are seeking.

FWIW, an old bud of mine, 96 now, took to cutting the cushion section out of some AA20 wads & turning them around, effectively making them 'shorter'and two-pieced when playing w/1 oz 20 ga loads. They were pressure tested by one of the major munitions makers at the time; those found safe/within SAMMI specs. got shot at clay targets, more for amusement than anything else. Neither of us was fond of 1 oz 20's, excepting for ducks decoyed in close. It was still lead shot days then and not that many guns were chambered for the 3" varieties that Francis Sell was such an advocate of. We took early season teal decoyed in close and some passing well outside the decoys w/1 oz of lead 6's w/o much difficulty using the better loads and a 20 ga. was a lot less burdensome taking into some of the playas we hunted back then.

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Thanks everyone. It seems I've got more to work with than I thought.

I'm not crazy about 1 oz. loads in the 20, either. The 7/8 oz. has suited me just fine in a 20 for dove and quail for as long as I can remember, but I have a different situation now. The Sterlingworth Ejector I have will not regulate with 7/8 oz. loads, and regulates fine with 1 oz. loads at about 1150.

We'll just have to try some 1 oz. loads and pick the best patterning, if I am to keep the gun for quail. If I've learned anything about patterning, and regulation with different loadings, it's that you can't outthink it. You have to go to the plate and just try different loads.



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