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Identity of engraver on a premium Italian double ? #584232 11/14/20 11:27 AM
Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 93 VA jdickson397 OP Sidelock
OP jdickson397 Sidelock Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 93 VA	I have acquired a premium grade sidelock Beretta 450 EL which is profusely engraved. It was made in 1950. The Engraver's Initials "ST" are engraved on the trigger plate. Perhaps I am reading it upside down and the initials are "IS" or "TS"? At any rate, I need help in identifying the engraver please. Last edited by jdickson397; 11/14/20 08:14 PM.

Re: Identity of engraver on a premium Italian double ? jdickson397 #584284 11/15/20 02:00 PM
Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 288 Likes: 10 Calgary, Alberta, Canada Calgary Bill Sidelock
Calgary Bill Sidelock Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 288 Likes: 10 Calgary, Alberta, Canada	I just had a quick look at R L Wilson's Beretta book and don't see a list of engravers. Perhaps contact Beretta? Can you share pictures of your fine gun?

Re: Identity of engraver on a premium Italian double ? jdickson397 #584285 11/15/20 02:03 PM
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 5,084 Likes: 35 Recoil Rob Sidelock
Recoil Rob Sidelock Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 5,084 Likes: 35	Probably ST, one of the Timpini family. From Beretta.... "There are only a few Master Engravers in the world. The Timpini family of Master Engravers has worked for Beretta for over 200 years." My problem lies in reconciling my gross habits with my net income. - Errol Flynn

Re: Identity of engraver on a premium Italian double ? jdickson397 #584439 11/16/20 08:35 PM
Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 93 VA jdickson397 OP Sidelock
OP jdickson397 Sidelock Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 93 VA	Thanks to both of you for your responses. I am trying to find the time to put the photos of the gun up online so that I can transfer the images to this thread. I looked in Marco Nobili's book on engraving but did not find a lead. I am leaning, like Recoil Rob, towards one of the Timpinis.

Re: Identity of engraver on a premium Italian double ? jdickson397 #584441 11/16/20 09:00 PM
Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 552 Likes: 56 COS, CO KDGJ Sidelock
KDGJ Sidelock Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 552 Likes: 56 COS, CO	I can't remember if S. Tononcelli was engraving guns in 1950. He was a Beretta master engraver in the 1960s. Ken

Re: Identity of engraver on a premium Italian double ? jdickson397 #584442 11/16/20 09:23 PM
Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 552 Likes: 56 COS, CO KDGJ Sidelock
KDGJ Sidelock Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 552 Likes: 56 COS, CO	Stefano Tononcelli was born in 1925 (he died in 1969). He may have engraved the gun. Ken

Re: Identity of engraver on a premium Italian double ? jdickson397 #584453 11/17/20 12:57 AM
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 315 Likes: 1 Indian Trail, NC Tom Bryant Sidelock
Tom Bryant Sidelock Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 315 Likes: 1 Indian Trail, NC	You�ve always had a thing for the sidelock Beretta SxS guns. You had a couple when I first met you, oh so many years ago. Call me sometime.

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