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Enactment? Shirley, you jest. I think progs still get a tingle up their leg recalling when nan walked that big ole wood hammer up the stairway to congress, repeating, if you want to read the bill, you have to pass the bill.

It never bothered me for a moment that another needy soul received the precious gift of health care. The problem has always been that you define health care. It is entirely your problem along with the rest of the progs, and not a question of tax subsidies. You could get so much. but you get what you deserve.

Quite simply the gov't at any level has to take money from someone at one level to give it to another. There needs to be enough of a host for the parasites to feed on or the whole system dies.

The stupid and lazy part is a prog like you thinking the government can or should do that for you. If the Unaffordable Care Act was sabotaged, those people deserve a medal. Keith already pointed out the many shortcomings of your progressive almost wet dream.
Too bad, huh? The hopy changey thing, especially the socialized medicine part of it, fell way short, just as I told you it would.

Better luck next time, shortcake.

Best,
Ted

And the very same people in the GOP that feel the same way you do are the ones that put you into that bind with the ACA in the first place. Yup, you sure told me.

Still can't see it can you? Well at least 77 million people and 5+% more of the voting population do. Shame is you will likely, and undeservingly so, benefit from their better judgement just like you did under Obama.

Can't say you don't have a sense of humor. Barry was like bashing your fingers with a hammer, feels so good when it stops.

Conservaturd "thinking" about taxes comes down to a conviction that no one should be taxed for something he doesn't need. In the case of the super-rich all they need is our armed forces to defend their holdings. Every other service of government is just an item they can write a check for. Middle class conservaturds allow that police and fire protection are OK, but public education is suspect, and any form of welfare is an outrage. They condemn abortion but have no concern for children once they're born( Check out child hunger stats in US ). It comes down to the notion that this is the land of the rugged individualist, and if you can't cut it on your own, too bad. Ironically, evangelical " Christians" embrace these views with a passion. They are most emphatically not their brother's keeper.

Easy to throw out blanket BS statements RMB, when you actually know not of what you speak!

Here's a link below that points out 10 Christian organizations that are dedicated to helping the poor and downtrodden and it's it a very small number of actual Christian organizations that do so....combined, probably a much larger charitable impact than the US Gov't, although I will admit, some are the arm with which the US Gov't uses to dole out food products and other goods. Much to your chagrin perhaps, That still doesn't change the fact that there are many Christian organizations out there doing good work.

https://www.theologydegrees.org/best-christian-charities/#:~:text=The%20Top%2010%20Most%20Amazing%20Christian%20Charities.%201,Advancing%20Native%20Missions%3A%20Learn%2C%20Connect%2C%20Engage.%20More%20items

Cameron, I accept what you say. Of course there are exceptions, and I'm thankful for them. When Katrina devastated New Orleans, the Southern Baptists stepped up in a big way. What irks me is the enormous gulf between the need and the response. This is not a country where children should be hungry or go without health care. Period. Standard Republican policy for decades has be that charity needs to be privatized. The problem is that there's no profit in it which is always the motivating factor in privatisation.

I've noticed Cameron that your side seems to cloak yoursevles in this argument, that the church, as a chartibe organization, sees to the less well off.

I wouldn't get too comfortable feeling good about yourselves on that.

The best and most efficient vehicle to provide services to the poor en mass is good government and governance. You know, the institution your side has been sabotaging since Reagan.

And the other issue is, of those donations you guys made, I'm sure some if it went to provide charity for the poor, but the rest probably goes to the legal defense fund for the rampant pedophilia in the church.

If you really wanted to be charitable to the poor, pay your taxes and make sure government is funded and well run.

What exactly is the science behind an �irk�?

Doesn�t honesty require an assessment of how efficiently the gov delivers a service? Or, are we only one post away from you using the libtard name calling strategy? There are many things that your President did, but don�t forget one of them was efficiency in many of the projects that you lefties require studies, blue ribbon commissions and carbon offsets.

If children are hungry, get in your pollution spewing truck and drop off some food, or is it just as valid to note that you are lying?

Edit to add, period!